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Offline sakoshooter

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #570 on: June 10, 2013, 08:13:11 PM »
They are way costly to be shooting in my opinion. Not worth the price to be shooting them. Almost as much as arrows...that's nuts!!!

Let's see..........$12 arrow, $15 broadhead, $11 nock(after taxes) - $38.00 per hunting arrow.
Kind of spendy.
I probably won't be using any illuminated nock but not because of cost, because it'll change my FOC a lot and I've put in way too much time setting up my hunting arrows and sighting in out to 100yds.
Still, they look really cool when someone shoots one into a 3D target.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #571 on: June 11, 2013, 05:09:00 PM »
If you use the lighted nocks and take a pope and young class deer you guys know it cant be entered right?

You also change FOC and make the arrow act like a stiffer spine.  Id have to add 21 grains to the tip if I used a lighted nock just to get the arrow to spine again. 42 extra grains isnt what Im looking for.
6 gpp is perfect for my set up. Ill pass on them. Glad they made them legal though. lots want them.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #572 on: June 11, 2013, 05:59:06 PM »
If you use the lighted nocks and take a pope and young class deer you guys know it cant be entered right?

You also change FOC and make the arrow act like a stiffer spine.  Id have to add 21 grains to the tip if I used a lighted nock just to get the arrow to spine again. 42 extra grains isnt what Im looking for.
6 gpp is perfect for my set up. Ill pass on them. Glad they made them legal though. lots want them.
Lots of people really don't care about being in a book. I know I don't atleast. I know quite a few others who don't either.
Your right about the FOC though, Thats not a big deal to me either. Easy to compensate for in many ways.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #573 on: June 11, 2013, 07:51:10 PM »
I like my nockternals but if I did ever see a record deer elk etc thats why I have one arrow without a lighted nock. Theres less then 10gr between my arrow with the nocks and they fly to the same spot at 75 yds :tup:

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #574 on: June 11, 2013, 07:54:56 PM »
Really, I am by no means an expert but if you replace your existing Nock which probably weighs around 12 grains and then put a 20 grain lighted nock in. Is it really going to make a huge difference??? I have heard many people say they experienced no difference in flight!!!!

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #575 on: June 11, 2013, 08:08:21 PM »
When i was in Minnesota last year and shooting them at 40 yards they were grouped right with my non lighted nocks.  I don't forsee me shooting more than 50 yards.  Man you guys shooting farther than that are incredible.  Heck your pins at over 50 yards would be covering most of the animal.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #576 on: June 11, 2013, 08:12:45 PM »
When i was in Minnesota last year and shooting them at 40 yards they were grouped right with my non lighted nocks.  I don't forsee me shooting more than 50 yards.  Man you guys shooting farther than that are incredible.  Heck your pins at over 50 yards would be covering most of the animal.

Russ, just get the smaller pins. I have been practicing out to 100 yds at the range and it gets easier with time. Wouldn't take that shot on an animal but it makes the shorter shots easier.


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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #577 on: June 11, 2013, 10:39:19 PM »
When i was in Minnesota last year and shooting them at 40 yards they were grouped right with my non lighted nocks.  I don't forsee me shooting more than 50 yards.  Man you guys shooting farther than that are incredible.  Heck your pins at over 50 yards would be covering most of the animal.

Russ, just get the smaller pins. I have been practicing out to 100 yds at the range and it gets easier with time. Wouldn't take that shot on an animal but it makes the shorter shots easier.


Where do you practice at 100 yards being from tacoma? Just curious, Ive been wanting to do long range practice but our yard pretty much limits out around 65 yards.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #578 on: June 11, 2013, 10:49:17 PM »

Where do you practice at 100 yards being from tacoma? Just curious, Ive been wanting to do long range practice but our yard pretty much limits out around 65 yards.

for $5 you can go out to Skookum range out off meridian in puyallup, or $7 Tacoma sportsman Club off 160th canyon.. both have flat range out to 100 yards. both ranges both have walk thru courses out in the woods that you can usually create whatever kind of shot you want but you would need a range finder to get your distances correct.  And if money is tight go down to the puyallup river on the levy side and throw your block out and move back as far as you want.

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #579 on: June 11, 2013, 10:51:46 PM »
When i was in Minnesota last year and shooting them at 40 yards they were grouped right with my non lighted nocks.  I don't forsee me shooting more than 50 yards.  Man you guys shooting farther than that are incredible.  Heck your pins at over 50 yards would be covering most of the animal.

Russ, just get the smaller pins. I have been practicing out to 100 yds at the range and it gets easier with time. Wouldn't take that shot on an animal but it makes the shorter shots easier.

Skookum in Puyallup or Tacoma Sportsmans club

Where do you practice at 100 yards being from tacoma? Just curious, Ive been wanting to do long range practice but our yard pretty much limits out around 65 yards.

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #580 on: June 12, 2013, 02:54:27 AM »

Where do you practice at 100 yards being from tacoma? Just curious, Ive been wanting to do long range practice but our yard pretty much limits out around 65 yards.

for $5 you can go out to Skookum range out off meridian in puyallup, or $7 Tacoma sportsman Club off 160th canyon.. both have flat range out to 100 yards. both ranges both have walk thru courses out in the woods that you can usually create whatever kind of shot you want but you would need a range finder to get your distances correct.  And if money is tight go down to the puyallup river on the levy side and throw your block out and move back as far as you want.
I'm a full member at Tacoma Sportsmans Club, Just never done any shooting down there yet.. :dunno: Guess its time to mosey on down there.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #581 on: June 13, 2013, 05:50:27 PM »
Really, I am by no means an expert but if you replace your existing Nock which probably weighs around 12 grains and then put a 20 grain lighted nock in. Is it really going to make a huge difference??? I have heard many people say they experienced no difference in flight!!!!

At hunting distances probably not much difference, But if your 10 grains changes FOC enough to cause flyers with broadheads then yes. Nothing like trying to train an arrow that has a mind of its own. lol.

Reality of over 30 years of hunting this state has me not too worried about book bucks...But Some do think about it. If enough states legalize the lighted nocks im sure an asterisk beside your name would be an option  for the listing..  Most nocks dont weight more then 8 to 10 grains. Ive played with lighted nocks as heavy as 40 gr. most around 21.  Thats enough to change FOC on my arrows to less then 11-12 percent. Broadheads work flawless for me around 15-16% Foc.  Smaller heads maybe less. larger maybe more. just an FYI.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #582 on: June 14, 2013, 12:43:39 AM »
Really, I am by no means an expert but if you replace your existing Nock which probably weighs around 12 grains and then put a 20 grain lighted nock in. Is it really going to make a huge difference??? I have heard many people say they experienced no difference in flight!!!!

It's all about FOC.  If someone says they see no difference I'd expect they do not shoot beyond 30 yards, they are fair weather shooters or they had a good bit of FOC in the first place.  An additional 10 to 15 grains on the back half of the arrow takes a good bit of weight in the front to compensate.  If you are always in the trees and you never shoot more than 30 yards you won't find it a big deal.  And if you never shoot truly tight groups you might not find it a big deal either.  But if you shoot less than 10% FOC out in the open at any extended distance in rain and/or wind you will learn to regret it sooner or later - lighted nocks or not!

Sometimes with four fletch I will allow my arrows to fall close to that 10% FOC mark, but with three fletch it's always 12% or more.  I know I say it over and over again, but there really is something magical about 12% FOC.  Just take the precautions to monitor your FOC when choosing to shoot lighted nocks and you should be happy with the results.  Well, at least until you pull your wallet out at the cash register.  And the first time that $12.00 nock doesn't work even when it's new out of the package.  ;)
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #583 on: June 14, 2013, 08:19:42 AM »
Wow move out of state and look what happens.  :)  I'm just glad that no more animals will be lost now...er wait that's probably not accurate, I'm just glad no more arrows will be lost now...ah no that's probably not right either, I'm just glad we can stop fighting over this issue..dang that's probably not right either....I'm just glad.  ;)
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