Anyone Have experience with Programmers?

[270Shooter]

I can get a screaming deal on an edge evolution CS. I do not know very much about programmers but I was hoping someone could give me some advice. I am really only wanting it for better fuel economy for my 2000 f150 5.4L. I guess my question is, Is it worth it? here is the link to it.

http://www.edgeproducts.com/product.php?pk=122&pvk=345&pname=Evolution+CS+Gas&pvname=Evolution+CS+Gas

[coachcw]

on the smokers they work well , I have been less impressed with them on gas engines and with so many catiyltic efficancey codes popping up i'd be pretty leary on using one on a newer rig .

[jackelope]

Dont buy a used one. 99.9% of the time they'll only work on the 1st vehicle they're used on.
I agree with coach. They're a lot more effective on diesels.

[270Shooter]

yeah i can tell they are much better on diesels. and its not used, its a new one i can get 50% off. i just dont know if its worth the money or the risk of damaging the truck. although it does have some really cool features.

[coachcw]

the only time i'd use one on a gas engine is if you need to calibrate for tire size and to reset your shift points , aswell as  gear changes 

[270Shooter]

I changed tire sizes so they are a little larger than stock but the speedo is only off by 1-2 mph so i probably wont worry about it. You don't think it would give me any noticable increase in fuel mileage?

I also hear that throttle body spacers can be a big help on these engines but is that true?

[coachcw]

I'd spend the money on some techron cleaner every so often , better off keeping the injectors running clean and to decarbon from time to time . throttle body spacers do do one thing they make the liknage and filter housing fit crappy  . be carefull with super free flowing exhaust aswell you could loose a bit of torque. the factory really dose a decent job of optimizing all driving conditions and air fuel ratios .

[270Shooter]

hmmm well shoot sounds like i should just save the money

[Mudman]

Worthless for gas.  Tuned good from the factory already.  Minimal gains.  Diesels are another animal.

[coachcw]

hmmm well shoot sounds like i should just save the money

and buy more hunting gear 

[270Shooter]

hmmm well shoot sounds like i should just save the money

and buy more hunting gear 

I do think that is a god idea

[thurman]

i have a sct tuner for my 07 f150 and love it. i read up on them a lot on www.f150forum.com and most see about 1-3 mpg gain, i got 2 but going from 11 to 13 im happy. stock turners are for stock trucks tho if you modify your truck you should get a custom email tune for your programmer, when i got mine i told them the brand of cold air intake, and exhaust and the size of tires i had then got a custom tune e mailed specifically for my truck and can definitely tell a difference in power. the sct can hold 3 custom tunes and the 3 stock tunes. to get custom tunes for your programer go to www.powerhungryperformance.com

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

The only benefit I could see for a gasser is the diagnostic tools.  If your engine throws a code, you don't need to go to a shop to have it read.  Of course auto zone does it free, soo save your money. 

[HntnFsh]

For diagnostics you can by a Blue tooth OBD II online for $20 and get Torquepro loaded on your smart phone for $5 and your good to go.

[motg9_6]

when i had my 08 f150 with a edge evolution i was getting 17-18 hwy mileage with it on trans mode. not huge mileage gains but you can get alot of power out of them. 35 in tires on extreme would break loose like nothing and haul a$$. its a matter of are you willing to pay the money for it or not.