Immigration Bill and it relation To Our 2nd Amendment Rights

[Elkaholic daWg]

Default Immigration Bill and 2nd Amendmend Issues

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Don't think it won't affect them

Gun Owners of America alert today

Gun Owners of America

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You Could Lose all your Guns before 2035
under the Amnesty Bill before the Senate


We've written you before about the immigration amnesty bill that will be debated on the Senate floor beginning June 10.

We had just been through a hard fight to stop gun bans and registration. And some of you may have even felt the immigration amnesty was not a "gun" issue.

But if the amnesty bill is passed, within 20 years, Washington could be as anti-gun as Albany, Hartford, and Sacramento.

This is because the bill will create at least 11,500,000 new citizens -- but probably closer to 20,000,000 -- and, if history is any guide, they will vote 71% of the time for far Left Democrats like Barack Obama.

Impartial analysts have determined that Florida, Colorado, Nevada, and probably Arizona will never vote for Republicans again. Given this, for the rest of your life, the White House will be occupied by someone who is just as anti-gun and just as liberal as Barack Obama.

Conservatives in the Senate think that they can woo new immigrants to their side of the aisle. But it is informative that, after the last amnesty bill (the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli bill signed by Ronald Reagan), those people given citizenship were LESS LIKELY to vote for more conservative and constitutional candidates.

Currently, the two political parties nationally, stand in a delicate political balance. Mitt Romney lost the presidency by 334,000 votes in four states (Florida, Ohio, Virginia and New Hampshire).

So if you add a net gain of almost 8.5 million Obama voters to the electorate, the same amnesty that turned California "blue" will probably turn the whole country anti-gun as well.

Already, the calls for gun confiscation in "blue" and "purple" states are growing louder and louder:

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said that "confiscation could be an option" after the Sandy Hook shooting;
Likewise, an Iowa legislator said that we need to "start taking" guns from law-abiding gun owners;
This year, legislation in both Minnesota and Missouri would have (if enacted) forced residents to cough up their high-capacity magazines and many of their semi-automatic firearms;
And legislators in New Jersey were recently caught on an open microphone saying that "we needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate."
By 2035, the battle will no longer be about stopping the expansion of background checks. Most likely, it will be about stopping the government from coming to take your guns away. And there is nothing we will be able to do about it.

ACTION: Click here to contact your Senators and urge them to vote against the anti-gun immigration amnesty bill.

 I'll try to find a link that works......

http://gunowners.org/a04262013.htm                                There's one! or two...

[Elkaholic daWg]

Over the next week or so, we'll let you in on some of the anti-gun specifics of Schumer's "amnesty bill," as it’s correctly dubbed. But for starters, the bill would push us towards a biometric ID card, which is something that GOA has opposed for years — given that a de facto National ID poses a huge threat to gun owners’ privacy.

But then there’s the fact that Schumer’s “amnesty bill” requires the government to give its okay — in a Brady Gun Check-type procedure — before you could get a private job in America (section 3(c)(2)(A)(iii)). Does anyone not see why this might be a problem?

We've just gone through excruciating pain to stop the expansion of Brady Checks for guns. Now we turn around and the same parties who were pushing that are now pushing Brady Checks for private jobs.

It’s ironic that those pushing for background checks are adamantly against ID’s for voting because that would disenfranchise the elderly, the poor, and minorities. Hmm, so they do understand that background checks — as a prior restraint — are a fundamentally flawed concept?

But this is where the real fun starts. You feed the potential employee’s info into a government database and, according to Senator Durbin, "up pops a picture." And, says Durbin, "if that picture doesn't match [the one on your ID], you may not be employed."

The Brady Check deals with a list of names which is in the millions. It deals only with things like names and social security numbers, not pictures. Yet it gives “false negatives” 8% of the time. And if you’re one of those 8% who are illegally denied a gun, the FBI’s response, more often than not, is “So sue us.” If this weren’t bad enough, the system breaks down for days at a time — normally the times when the most people need it.

Do we really want to expand this flawed concept to other areas of our lives?

If this weren't bad enough, we know that, once the government has to give its approval before you can do something, it’s an almost iron-clad guarantee that it will exercise that power in a political manner. Under the Brady Check system, 165,000 law-abiding honorable veterans have lost their gun rights, not because they have done anything wrong, but because they sought counseling from the VA on the basis of a traumatic experience in the military.

Watching Schumer explain on the Senate floor why those veterans should lose their constitutional rights without any court order — while he vigilantly defends due process for foreign terrorists — is like watching a dung beetle drag its “prey” back to its lair.

So we know 165,000 non-politically correct veterans lost their gun rights under Brady Checks. Who will become politically incorrect unemployable non-persons under Brady Checks for Jobs?

Now, one would think that the fact that one million people in Boston were put under house arrest last week because our current immigration system allowed two asylum-seekers from terrorist-filled Chechnya to become legal residents and, in one case, a citizen of our country, will put the skids on the "inevitability" of Schumer’s amnesty bill. After all, gun control was "inevitable" too.

But the bottom line is this: Just as we saw the gun ramifications of ObamaCare, we will also see the problems with a bill that alters the electorate in such a way that the Second Amendment will cease to exist. In doing so, we will need to make sure that we don’t have most of our guns registered or confiscated in 2035 because short-sighted politicians listened to MSNBC and turned our country blue.

But we will also make sure that we do not take bad gun law and turn it into bad employment law

[Elkaholic daWg]

  This seems to get more discussion on a snowmobile forum.....
 More......

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-blumenthal-gun-control-amendments-20130604,0,1959232.story

Sen. Blumenthal To Offer Gun Control Amendments To Immigration Bill

   

By JENNY WILSON, jenwilson@courant.com
 
11:04 a.m. EDT, June 5, 2013
U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal plans to offer at least two gun control amendments to the immigration reform bill the Senate is set to take up next week, returning to an issue that was defeated earlier this spring.

Gun control and immigration reform were the cornerstones of the president's second-term agenda and Blumenthal -- who made stricter gun laws a top priority following the Newtown school massacre -- will attempt to use one as a vehicle to revive the other.

"Supporters of gun violence prevention like myself have said repeatedly and consistently that we're going to raise this issue again and again as long as it is necessary to seek positive steps forward," said Blumenthal. "This bill is certainly an opportunity and I feel an obligation to raise it in ways that are relevant and important to immigration."

 More at Link....

[Elkaholic daWg]

  too bad our senators are Obama lapdogs,but call anyway.


Dear james,

The battle over Barack Obama's DANGEROUS National ID database is raging in the United States Senate RIGHT NOW!

Obama's goal is one massive database, cataloging information on ALL Americans so Washington, D.C. bureaucrats can pick and choose to deny rights to certain individuals -- especially Second Amendment rights.

And that's exactly what he's seeking with his DANGEROUS ID database buried inside the so-called "immigration reform" bill.

The good news is, my Capitol Hill legislative team tells me NAGR member, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), is set to offer a "Trust but Verify" Amendment that would strip Obama's DANGEROUS ID database out of the immigration bill.

Senator Paul's amendment could come up for a vote on the floor of the Senate as early as today.

That's why it's vital you take action AT ONCE.

Please use the telephone numbers listed below to contact BOTH of your U.S. Senators.

When you make your calls, INSIST that your Senators SUPPORT Rand Paul's "Trust but Verify" Amendment to strip the DANGEROUS ID database out of the immigration bill.

Sen. Maria Cantwell: (202) 224-3441

Sen. Patty Murray: (202) 224-2621

Once you've made your calls, please encourage others to make calls as well.  CLICK HERE to forward this email to friends and family.

Continue reading below to learn more about the threat that Obama's DANGEROUS ID database poses to gun owners.

The DANGEROUS ID database would contain the names, addresses, and biometric information -- like facial and retinal scans and fingerprints -- of EVERY AMERICAN.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see how such a system could be abused.

Firearm purchases -- including serial numbers -- could easily be linked to the national DANGEROUS ID database creating an instant National Gun Registry.

Ammo purchases could be linked.  Health records, book purchases, online activity, religious views -- contribution history to political candidates -- could all be at a federal bureaucrat’s fingertips.

And it could all happen with a series of simple Executive Orders -- without so much as a vote in Congress!

I know Senate “Gang of Eight” members -- like Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) -- just link arms with President Obama, smile and say “trust us.”

I can’t imagine any American citizen who values their freedom falling for that after the outrages we’ve seen out of the Obama administration, including:

*** President Obama’s Department of Homeland Security issuing warnings about patriotic Americans, “rightwing extremists,” veterans and those with the “wrong” Presidential candidate’s bumper sticker on their cars;

*** The Obama IRS scandal, using the vast power of the federal government to harass and intimidate Tea Party groups, Christian and conservative organizations and political enemies;

*** Attorney General Eric Holder targeting reporters and even their family members with wiretapping for daring to criticize the Obama administration;

*** The Fast and Furious scandal where the Obama administration just looked the other way while bloodthirsty Mexican drug gangs funneled arms across the border resulting in the death of Border Patrol Agent, Brian Terry.

Over the past few months, you and I have seen more full frontal assaults on our gun rights than at any time in a generation.

NAGR members have stood up and defeated each and every one so far.

In fact, as Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) recently said, “Without NAGR’s bare-knuckled, no-compromise tactics, I believe President Obama would have already succeeded in ramming gun control into law.”

Of course, these battles rage on.  But now, the gun-grabbers are trying a backdoor scheme, hoping to catch Second Amendment supporters napping.

The truth is, the Big Government, anti-gun establishment in Washington, D.C. -- including members of BOTH parties -- have been lock, stock and barrel behind such an “Immigration Reform” scheme for years.

They think the time is now finally right to ram this scheme -- complete with a national DANGEROUS ID database -- into law.

That’s why it's vital you call BOTH of your U.S. Senators RIGHT NOW!

INSIST that your Senators SUPPORT Rand Paul's "Trust but Verify" Amendment to strip the DANGEROUS ID database out of the immigration bill.