School me on calling Rosies!!!

[kglacken]

I have always hunted in a unit that us so pressured that calling is not effective at all. That changes this year. I love my bully bull tube, but I need some advice. What diaphram should I have for it? Do you guys do more bugling or cow calling? or both? Do you locate and then move in before calling? Ive called elk before, but never had one commit because to be honest, I never really knew what I was doing. What calls work best for rosies? Or is it all the same? I would like an and all advice that people are willing to share! Thanks guys!

[Dutchie]

Ive been archery hunting for elk about 6 years now, makes me absolutely no expert.  So i can give you some of the donts.  Its easy to get excited when a bull anwers people tend to get excited and over call.  Ascess the situation when you get a response.  Wind is your ley factor, never call when the wind is blowing to the animal, make any needed adjustments in your approach to make sure the wind is in your favor.  Ive blown out too many elk due to the wind.  If the elk makes the connection between your calling and human scent youve lost him, and hes became wiser.  Another tip is a cow call can be just as/ more effective than a big nasty bugle.  Elk 101e makes awesome sounding single reed.  The last tip is sometimes silence is best, use your calls to keep tabs to 200 yds.  Then put the ninka sneek on em'.   

 

[elk247]

The Rosie's I have hunted have been more call shy than rockeys. Not by too much so don't worry. Let the situation dictate the approach. If your in the rain forest and get a locate that may be all you need to sneak in and seal the deal. Cow call to cover your stalk, calm a nervous herd with a mellow mew, don't over bugle. If you get a response that's a good indicator that you can fire that bull up. Work him up, scream! Rake, grunt, chuckle, pick a fight. Be set up in front of your caller and HAVE a shooting lane.  I've met many guys in the Olympic elk woods that have had bulls from 5 to 20 yards and never had a clean shot. It's the densest habitat in the state and maybe the country. If your on a herd bull or satellite defiantly throw some mews out. I love to hunt with a diaphragm call so i can freeze a bull when I'm at full draw. I always hunt with at least 3 different bull reeds. Try a few out. Some fit better, sound better, and are more difficult to use than others. A few years ago i found a diaphragm holder that clips to the brim of a hat. It holds 3 reeds. Its perfect for remaining quiet when changing reeds. I've seen your hunts on video. You got this buddy. Don't expect that big primos 7x7 to come struttin into your lap. Sneak in and cut them lung's! Above all else watch those thermals! A quick swirler will leave you crying like a kindergardner with pooped pants on the playground.

[Alan K]

If you're not terribly worried about sticking a mature bull (always welcome though of course!), you'll get rag horns to come in silently to cow calling.  It can take some time for them to close the distance since they're sneaking in quiet to try and rob a cow from a harem, but we've had several rag's come in that way.  Only time we've really had good luck on Roosie herd bulls via bugling is to get right in tight with the cows and let loose.  A lot of times if you bugle your way in and they're not really looking to fight they'll round up the cows and push them out.

[billdo5]

3 variables...
1. weather
2. competition
3. location

Ive had bulls bugle in some areas in and not others depending on these 3 variables... 1. weather: too hot tend to stay quiet... 2. Competition: Lack of this less likely to bugle... 3. Location: If they are by houses or see people quite often less likely to bugle...   In the long run they will probably come in quiet so dont call to much i recommend a few cow calls every 15 to 30 minutes

[JPhelps]

What diaphragm? The one that you are most confident with.  Everyone has a different pallete size and applies tongue pressure different, so the only way to tell is buy a few different styles and test them out.  A few calls that would give you a good idea on what you like and to see what works for you would be; bugling bull "raging bull", bugling bull "all star" and my "elk commander". 

Bugling or Cow calling?  I use three elk calls 90% of the time while in the woods.  Location bugle, pleading cow/estrus whines and challenge bugle.  I locate from ridge tops primarily calling into every new finger or basin.  Once a bull is located I move in silent (if possible) set up as close as I can (within 100 yds preferred) and estrus whine and follow it with a challenge bugle.

Locate and then move in? Yes locate through glassing or bugling then move in for the setup.

What calls work best?  The one(s) that YOU are most confident and comfortable with.  Not all calls will sound or work the same for everyone.

[billdo5]

What diaphragm? The one that you are most confident with.  Everyone has a different pallete size and applies tongue pressure different, so the only way to tell is buy a few different styles and test them out.  A few calls that would give you a good idea on what you like and to see what works for you would be; bugling bull "raging bull", bugling bull "all star" and my "elk commander". 

Bugling or Cow calling?  I use three elk calls 90% of the time while in the woods.  Location bugle, pleading cow/estrus whines and challenge bugle.  I locate from ridge tops primarily calling into every new finger or basin.  Once a bull is located I move in silent (if possible) set up as close as I can (within 100 yds preferred) and estrus whine and follow it with a challenge bugle.

Locate and then move in? Yes locate through glassing or bugling then move in for the setup.

What calls work best?  The one(s) that YOU are most confident and comfortable with.  Not all calls will sound or work the same for everyone.

do u make ur own diaphragm?

[JPhelps]

What diaphragm? The one that you are most confident with.  Everyone has a different pallete size and applies tongue pressure different, so the only way to tell is buy a few different styles and test them out.  A few calls that would give you a good idea on what you like and to see what works for you would be; bugling bull "raging bull", bugling bull "all star" and my "elk commander". 

Bugling or Cow calling?  I use three elk calls 90% of the time while in the woods.  Location bugle, pleading cow/estrus whines and challenge bugle.  I locate from ridge tops primarily calling into every new finger or basin.  Once a bull is located I move in silent (if possible) set up as close as I can (within 100 yds preferred) and estrus whine and follow it with a challenge bugle.

Locate and then move in? Yes locate through glassing or bugling then move in for the setup.

What calls work best?  The one(s) that YOU are most confident and comfortable with.  Not all calls will sound or work the same for everyone.

do u make ur own diaphragm?

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[billdo5]

The best way to learn is by going out and playing with them.... (after your season or before)

[D-Rock425]

The best way to learn is by going out and playing with them.... (after your season or before)

bad idea

[billdo5]

thats ur opinion... its a good way to scout too...

[D-Rock425]

Its illegal!  Called harassing wildlife.

[billdo5]

lolololol

[D-Rock425]

I'm just saying.  You are right its probably good practice but I recommend learning during the season.

[billdo5]

I'm just saying.  You are right its probably good practice but I recommend learning during the season.

Yes i see where u coming from but say ur hunting muzzloader go out in that cap between archery and muzzy and practice/scout... so ur not going in blind...