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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2013, 07:13:34 PM »
Of course!!

I even suggested another location he may want to go look at.


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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2013, 08:21:40 PM »
Not sure I have seen any loons in Orient, But rumor has it there are a few Wacko's.

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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2013, 08:39:39 PM »
Not sure I have seen any loons in Orient, But rumor has it there are a few Wacko's.


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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2013, 12:34:12 PM »
State to collar wolf in effort to track Wedge Pack 

http://www.capitalpress.com/content/mw-Calf-update-081313?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife plans to put a tracking collar on a Wedge Pack member this week, but wildlife managers say they will consider shooting more wolves if they continue to kill livestock.

David Ware, department game division manager, said a calf found dead July 22 on Roy Graeber's ranch in Laurier, Wash., was confirmed as a wolf kill.

"It obviously raises concern for a lot of folks," Ware said. "Folks are wanting to hold our feet to the fire, and that's not a bad thing -- the department will do what we said we would do, as best we can."

The department will trap a wolf to put a satellite collar on it to track, Ware said. No Wedge Pack wolves are currently collared.

"Just having a trapping operation on the ground sometimes is enough to get wolves to abandon the area," he said. "We would probably be extremely lucky if we were to catch anything with the limited wolf sign we are seeing, but we are still going to take a shot at it."

The Stevens County Cattlemen's Association is calling for removal of the Wedge Pack.

Because of the history of the pack, which has repeated attacked livestock in the area, Ware said the department would have to look seriously at killing the wolves if there's another depredation.

"We want to leave our options open," he said. "Even if we caught a wolf, we may decide to put a collar on it because there's multiple wolves up there. We want to find out about that so we can be more effective, dealing with what options we might have."

Ware expected trapping efforts to occur later this week.

If the department catches one wolf but sees multiple tracks, they would likely use a collar to find the other wolves, Ware said. But if the wolf potentially is attracted to a carcass, the department could remove it quickly, he said.

"We definitely would move forward with action immediately," he said.

Graeber said the calf killed in July was one of 100 pairs he raises. He estimated the loss at $900.

Graeber would like to see the department remove the entire wolf pack. He's had a department range rider and game officials inspect the area, noting he uses a 3,000-acre forest pasture. The department is working on 250 acres of about 3,000, he said. He also monitors the larger area.

Graeber doesn't believe the department will do much to remove the pack. His family and friends have 11 cameras set for motion detection on the property, baited with wolf urine or elk feed.

Graeber said there have been no additional depredations, but there are reports of wolves in the vicinity.

He advises other ranchers to contact the Stevens County Sheriff's Office if they have a wolf near their ranch.

Graeber is aware of critics who complain about how his ranch is handling the situation.

"It just makes you wonder how they'd feel if that wolf was trotting down the sidewalk with their little rat dog in its mouth," he said.



Ok, I'm confused.  I thought that all the wolves were killed in the Wedge  :dunno: :rolleyes:
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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2013, 03:51:41 PM »
This wolf was only a few miles from Davis Lake!


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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2013, 04:02:18 PM »
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The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife plans to put a tracking collar on a Wedge Pack member this week, but wildlife managers say they will consider shooting more wolves if they continue to kill livestock.

How is it possible to collar a wedge pack member if they shot all of them last year?  :dunno:
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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2013, 04:05:07 PM »
Ok, I'm confused.  I thought that all the wolves were killed in the Wedge  :dunno: :rolleyes:

I just know went and read the rest of your post, denali.  I see  you were thinking the same as me.  :)

I posted my previous comment immediately when reading part of the article and then went back to read the rest.


I hope WDFW feels like morons now, knowing that they could have left one of the collared wolves live and track him to his buddies and then kill the rest.   :twocents:
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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2013, 04:13:16 PM »
Its OJT.............on the job training, trial and error, nothing but a bunch of unsupervised apprentices............yada yada.............

I wish theyd just tell the warden up north to fix the problem how ever he sees fit........its on you, fix it...period.

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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2013, 04:20:23 PM »
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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2013, 04:25:53 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/wedge/

"The original Wedge pack was confirmed in July 2012 with the capture and radio-collaring of an adult male wolf believed to be the alpha, and the capture and ear-tagging of a wolf pup.  At the same time, investigations of livestock injuries and losses at other area ranches indicated the pack of at least eight wolves was likely responsible. Wolves were hazed and livestock owners were issued a permit to kill a wolf caught in the act of attacking livestock. When wolf-livestock attacks continued into August, one wolf was killed to try to break the pattern of depredation. As livestock injuries and losses escalated into September, efforts to remove wolves continued, and ultimately six additional wolves were killed. "

I guess it depends what "removal" means and to whom. 7 out of at least 8 tells me they decided they had taken out enough, not all of them. The rest was, obviously, spin.

On the flip side, if wolves are as prolific as would seem to be the case I don't see why they couldn't be new arrivals. Either way it doesn't matter a lot. They are there.

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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2013, 04:30:05 PM »
2 weeks ago wolves were howling east of both ranches just after daylight. But it has gotten to be useless to make a report. Nothing happens

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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2013, 04:32:56 PM »
State to collar wolf in effort to track Wedge Pack 

http://www.capitalpress.com/content/mw-Calf-update-081313?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife plans to put a tracking collar on a Wedge Pack member this week, but wildlife managers say they will consider shooting more wolves if they continue to kill livestock.

David Ware, department game division manager, said a calf found dead July 22 on Roy Graeber's ranch in Laurier, Wash., was confirmed as a wolf kill.

"It obviously raises concern for a lot of folks," Ware said. "Folks are wanting to hold our feet to the fire, and that's not a bad thing -- the department will do what we said we would do, as best we can."

The department will trap a wolf to put a satellite collar on it to track, Ware said. No Wedge Pack wolves are currently collared.

"Just having a trapping operation on the ground sometimes is enough to get wolves to abandon the area," he said. "We would probably be extremely lucky if we were to catch anything with the limited wolf sign we are seeing, but we are still going to take a shot at it."

The Stevens County Cattlemen's Association is calling for removal of the Wedge Pack.

Because of the history of the pack, which has repeated attacked livestock in the area, Ware said the department would have to look seriously at killing the wolves if there's another depredation.

"We want to leave our options open," he said. "Even if we caught a wolf, we may decide to put a collar on it because there's multiple wolves up there. We want to find out about that so we can be more effective, dealing with what options we might have."

Ware expected trapping efforts to occur later this week.

If the department catches one wolf but sees multiple tracks, they would likely use a collar to find the other wolves, Ware said. But if the wolf potentially is attracted to a carcass, the department could remove it quickly, he said.

"We definitely would move forward with action immediately," he said.

Graeber said the calf killed in July was one of 100 pairs he raises. He estimated the loss at $900.

Graeber would like to see the department remove the entire wolf pack. He's had a department range rider and game officials inspect the area, noting he uses a 3,000-acre forest pasture. The department is working on 250 acres of about 3,000, he said. He also monitors the larger area.

Graeber doesn't believe the department will do much to remove the pack. His family and friends have 11 cameras set for motion detection on the property, baited with wolf urine or elk feed.

Graeber said there have been no additional depredations, but there are reports of wolves in the vicinity.

He advises other ranchers to contact the Stevens County Sheriff's Office if they have a wolf near their ranch.

Graeber is aware of critics who complain about how his ranch is handling the situation.

"It just makes you wonder how they'd feel if that wolf was trotting down the sidewalk with their little rat dog in its mouth," he said.



Ok, I'm confused.  I thought that all the wolves were killed in the Wedge  :dunno: :rolleyes:

This is what I was told by a Sheriff I know. He said the only wolves that were killed, were killed to appease the general public ( treehuggers ). He told me there were more that weren't killed because the WDFW thought that it was good enough for the general public to know.
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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2013, 04:38:13 PM »
Does that mean WDFW is or would with hold information from the public ??????  Or even worse, mislead us with ironius information or information otherwise known to be untrue ?????   NAHHHHH........well, maybe.  YOU BET YOUR SWEET HINDER !!!!!!

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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2013, 06:52:26 PM »
Interesting that one can hear howling on both sides of the wedge on the same night.   I hear em on the Columbia river side and they're heard on the Kettle River side on the same nights.

one pack my azz  :bash:

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Re: wolves active again in the wedge
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2013, 07:25:32 PM »
In March I had them off the back porch in Ferry county Just up the road from your Dads place.

 


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