Copper Bullet advice

[Wacenturion]

id probly go with nosler....i will never shoot another barnes bullet out of any of my guns ever again...

and why is that?

[hub]

I think the thing that attracts me to the E-TIP is that it is acually designed to expand while still retaining 95 percent of weight. The barnes is a simple solid designed to pencil thru. The designs are completely different it seems to me.

[JLS]

I think the thing that attracts me to the E-TIP is that it is acually designed to expand while still retaining 95 percent of weight. The barnes is a simple solid designed to pencil thru. The designs are completely different it seems to me.

Barnes TSX are not designed to pencil through.  They are designed to mushroom and retain a very high percentage of their weight.  The few I've recovered have been textbook.

[Curly]

I have no experience with the E-tip.  I have only used Barnes TSX and the old Barnes XLC (blue coated).  One thing I wonder about the E-tip, is how is the copper fouling?  TSX and TTSX have the rings/grooves which reduce the surface area and thus reduce fouling.  Does the E-tip foul more than the Barnes? 

[Curly]

One tip I can give on copper bullets (Barnes anyway) is that seating depth seems to be more important than with lead bullets.  Sometimes a rather large jump to the lands is more accurate than getting up close to the lands.  Barnes says to start at 0.050" jump and that seems to be good advice with even more of a jump sometimes even more accurate.

[fastdam]

Barnes bullets out of my 7mag shoot under half inch if I do my part, seated .01 off the lands.

[hub]

I think the thing that attracts me to the E-TIP is that it is acually designed to expand while still retaining 95 percent of weight. The barnes is a simple solid designed to pencil thru. The designs are completely different it seems to me.

Barnes TSX are not designed to pencil through.  They are designed to mushroom and retain a very high percentage of their weight.  The few I've recovered have been textbook.

OOPS, I blew that one. I was looking at the groved solid on the barnes web site. The TSX is designed to expand. I think I will try a box of e-tips and TSX,s. Our wa. state polititians will probably ban lead one of these days. I want to know if they will shoot well in my rifles. Can,t hurt to stay one step ahead of the polititions.

[Don Fischer]

Only maker I know of that use's copper is Barnes. Hornady and Nosler use gilding metal, same stuff as the jacket's of their other bullet's. How much difference there would be I don't know. Have to pack out the gut's when shot with lead core bullet's? Who made up that rule?

The nosler E tip is a solid copper alloy. No mention of gilding metal on there web site.

Gilding metal is a copper alloy.

http://www.nosler.com/e-tip/

Scroll down the where you see the box the bullet's come in. They are solid gilding metal. It is on theirt web site.