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Offline Buckblaster

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Re: 30-06 and light loads
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2007, 11:37:32 AM »
I was using just regular Hornady spire points in my 300wsm till I blew one up on the muley I shot in the Pogue a few years ago. That bullet hit the shoulder on a 75 yard shot and just dissintegrated. I switched to partitions but haven't killed anything with them yet.  I also am hunting with 120 gr Barnes X in the 7mm-08. The bullet length of the 120 gr Barnes is the same length as the 140 gr Partition. The Barnes gives more velocity and is a tougher bullet.  It's a fast load that chrono's at 3200 fps. I haven't killed anything with that either.
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Re: 30-06 and light loads
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2007, 07:36:41 PM »
I don't know how many of you guys actually practice long range shooting, but even with handloads 400 yards is a stretch for a 30-06, the amount of holdover from 350-400 yards changes drastically.

Tacoma Sportsmen's Club has a long range, open to non-members.

I've got two or three spots where we can shoot up to 1000 yards, in the woods on the west side.

At extreme long distances a metal "dinger" is a great thing. You'd need the Hubble Telescope to see bullet holes at 400 yards.
We used a 2'x3' plate at 400, placing it in a dirt bank.

With a lot of practice both wind doping and holdover become more natural, and the rangefinder is less of a necessity.

To the original question, I believe the average 30-06 is way overpowered, and slinging way too heavy of a projectile.

The venerable 30-30 has taken most all of North America's large game, up to bear and moose.
With way less poop than an -06. ;)
Many states allow .22 cal centerfires for deer, and a .243 is more than adequate at the minimum our state requires.

My (.30 cal) rifle was used last fall, to take a large whitetail doe.
It was done using a 123 gr PSP, backed by 47 grains of H4895.
She fell over dead as dead, with one shot.

I ran out of those bullets, letting the borrower get used to it, so I took my buck with a 180gr RN, full strength load.
I killed him way deader than he needed to be.

My brother custom loads, if you don't but you'd like a tailored load, contact me.
It's a bit more than a box of factory bullets, but it's worth it.
He also does "handloading lessons", you go over to his house (in north Seattle) and have his supervision and equipment, to do the job yourself.
We have the dies for dozens of calibers both mainstream and obscure, and have access to more with a bit of notice.

He'll work with you at the range, where the real work of handloading takes place, and use the chronograph so you have a good baseline of data to build on.

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Re: 30-06 and light loads
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2007, 01:10:50 AM »
Miles,

I did indeed mean a 2 foot x 3 foot plate, 1/2" thick.
The 2x3 plate is approx. the size of a bull elk's chest, and hitting it in the corners is not good.
To set it up a cut is made in the top of a stump 3 or 4 inches deep, with a chain saw, and the plate is stood up in that slot.
At almost a quarter mile away, it doesn't look very big.

I wish my brother was here, long range shooting the 30-06 is his game.
If I had more time I'd fire up the "Rem-shoot" program and run the actual drop rate.

The .222 I shoot at long range has some serious holdover at 400 yards, and over 14 feet of drop at 600 yards (the longest target shot I ever made with it).

When we shoot at 1000 yards we like to scrounge up an old car hood, and paint it a bright color.
I have yet to hit the hood at 1000 with the .222 or my 7.62x54 (with iron sights), but Red can do it with several of the big bores.

Holdover is measured in hoods, "I held five hoods high, and one hood left" or whatever.
Even his Burris "plex" scope is done after 500 yards or so, unless you push the zero way out there. And that's not what we are practicing for, the point is to be able to judge distance and dope wind "old school".

There's supposed to be a cool range around Spokane, with steel animal silhuoette targets to 1000, open to the public. Red's been but I haven't.

You said it all dude, "its all shot placement.  An animal is not going to know the difference between a  high power handload and a factory one,  when you put it in the vitals!"

They won't even know if it's a low powered factory load. ;)
In the youth hunts, deer everywhere die, with factory reduced recoil loads.

Red's thing is long distance, mine is light loads.

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Re: 30-06 and light loads
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2007, 04:34:34 PM »
Hey buddy sounds like your going to get into some real shooting. 300 plus is starting to get out there. It's a lot of fun. i totally agree with the response that 30-06 at 300 yards not really a problem. I've stretched it to around 450 but that is about it in the field. At the range you can play a lot with different loads. I'm looking for a new 308 not really sure what i want right now just starting to look around. Next time your around this neck of the woods maybe we can shoot my buddies range (800meters) lots of fun

 


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