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Quote from: Northway on September 18, 2013, 02:16:48 PMQuote from: stuckalot on September 16, 2013, 10:13:42 PMI really don't want to get into the treaty rights aspect of this much, except to say that I do believe we need to co-manage our resources and I don't believe that it necessarily means that tribes need to give up any of their rights. We will not likely ever play completely by the same rules, but I think we have to find some common ground. Tribes can maintain their rights and at the same time choose to set some rules for their members that are more in common with the rest of the state. Two examples:1. If the state and the tribes can agree that the Colockum herd needs more mature bulls and makes stupid rules like true spike only, then the tribes should limit themselves to true spikes or cows, they can still have all year to hunt but at least there is a move toward some equality and co-management. 2. This gets to my major gripe, when archery and muzzleloading seasons are in progress, I believe that the responsible thing for the tribes to do is to limit their members to like weapons during those times, it's pure and simple a safety issue. I don't care if its a bunch of inbred rednecks from Darrington, I don't want to be in the woods all camoed up within bow range of a herd of elk and have a bunch of yahoos banging away with rifles from the next ridge over! I don't care if it is your right!I think it's really nothing personal against first nation tribes. Whenever you have groups of people with special rights and little or no oversight, there is a huge risk for abuse. In my mind, there is no question that there has been significant abuse of special hunting & fishing privileges. If there was a group of white people with the same special privileges and dysfunctional oversight, we would be having the same conversation.From your moniker and your use of "First Nations" I'm guessing your a Canadain trans plant? Am I right?
Quote from: stuckalot on September 16, 2013, 10:13:42 PMI really don't want to get into the treaty rights aspect of this much, except to say that I do believe we need to co-manage our resources and I don't believe that it necessarily means that tribes need to give up any of their rights. We will not likely ever play completely by the same rules, but I think we have to find some common ground. Tribes can maintain their rights and at the same time choose to set some rules for their members that are more in common with the rest of the state. Two examples:1. If the state and the tribes can agree that the Colockum herd needs more mature bulls and makes stupid rules like true spike only, then the tribes should limit themselves to true spikes or cows, they can still have all year to hunt but at least there is a move toward some equality and co-management. 2. This gets to my major gripe, when archery and muzzleloading seasons are in progress, I believe that the responsible thing for the tribes to do is to limit their members to like weapons during those times, it's pure and simple a safety issue. I don't care if its a bunch of inbred rednecks from Darrington, I don't want to be in the woods all camoed up within bow range of a herd of elk and have a bunch of yahoos banging away with rifles from the next ridge over! I don't care if it is your right!I think it's really nothing personal against first nation tribes. Whenever you have groups of people with special rights and little or no oversight, there is a huge risk for abuse. In my mind, there is no question that there has been significant abuse of special hunting & fishing privileges. If there was a group of white people with the same special privileges and dysfunctional oversight, we would be having the same conversation.
I really don't want to get into the treaty rights aspect of this much, except to say that I do believe we need to co-manage our resources and I don't believe that it necessarily means that tribes need to give up any of their rights. We will not likely ever play completely by the same rules, but I think we have to find some common ground. Tribes can maintain their rights and at the same time choose to set some rules for their members that are more in common with the rest of the state. Two examples:1. If the state and the tribes can agree that the Colockum herd needs more mature bulls and makes stupid rules like true spike only, then the tribes should limit themselves to true spikes or cows, they can still have all year to hunt but at least there is a move toward some equality and co-management. 2. This gets to my major gripe, when archery and muzzleloading seasons are in progress, I believe that the responsible thing for the tribes to do is to limit their members to like weapons during those times, it's pure and simple a safety issue. I don't care if its a bunch of inbred rednecks from Darrington, I don't want to be in the woods all camoed up within bow range of a herd of elk and have a bunch of yahoos banging away with rifles from the next ridge over! I don't care if it is your right!
For shooting 2 different bulls that were coming in to my calls. Im archery hunting and they get to drive around in there trucks, listen for calls, and shoot them from the road. Wish we all had to follow the For a group of people who say they love and respect Mother Nature, they sure do a lot damage when taking and doing what ever they want.Sad part is....most don't care and act like it is owed to them
For shooting 2 different bulls that were coming in to my calls. Im archery hunting and they get to drive around in there trucks, listen for calls, and shoot them from the road. Wish we all had to follow the same rules.
Quote from: gonehuntin68 on September 14, 2013, 10:16:40 AMFor shooting 2 different bulls that were coming in to my calls. Im archery hunting and they get to drive around in there trucks, listen for calls, and shoot them from the road. Wish we all had to follow the same rules. I heard a Nooksack bull was taken this week, just curious did you call it in gonehuntin68?