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Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« on: September 22, 2013, 09:53:38 AM »
I have been trying to ID this rifle for several years. I know it is a Steyr action. The action has Belgian proofs. It is a single shot with no magwell.

I need to cast the chamber, but I believe it is 7mm Mauser.


My guess is that it a English sporting rifle from the early 1900's and maybe Gibbs?

Alright all you smartguys,  have at it

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 09:56:20 AM »
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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 01:04:54 PM »
An 1871 Mauser sporting rifle
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

Make mine a Minaska

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 02:42:35 PM »
An 1871 Mauser sporting rifle

That's close, but this one is definitely Steyr in origin.

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 05:58:14 PM »
That is a German Imperial Eagle stating stage of proof and the Crown over a B is the final German proof mark of the period.   No Austrian or Belgium proof marks visible on your photos.

Everything about the rifle says Germanic from the Set Trigger, Pop-Up Sight, Cheek Piece and the Spoon Bolt Handle.

Any chance you could take the action out of the stock and take pictures of the proof marks on the bottom of the barrel.  You might even find the caliber designation there.

There was a Steyr-Kropatschek rifle that looks very much like an 1871 Mauser.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2013, 06:14:14 PM by AWS »
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

Make mine a Minaska

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 06:09:01 PM »
That is a German Imperial Eagle stating stage of proof and the Crown over a B is the final German proof mark of the period.   No Austrian or Belgium proof marks visible on your photos.

Everything about the rifle says Germanic from the Set Trigger, Pop-Up Sight, Cheek Piece and the Spoon Bolt Handle.

Any chance you could take the action out of the stock and take pictures of the proof marks on the bottom of the barrel.  You might even find the caliber designation there.

OK

I'm going in....... 

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 06:15:46 PM »
I did add more to the previous post about the Steyr- Kropatschek rifle.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

Make mine a Minaska

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 06:32:38 PM »
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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 10:28:06 AM »
Here's what I got from someone in the know.


The discussion about Kropatschek and others is all b...s...!
It is a single shot stalking rifle built on a German M88 "Commission Rifle" action, the protuding and offending magazine replaced with a more "sporting" triggerguard. Such single shot conversions of M88 actions are not as rare as you may think. Many hunters pre-WW1 did not like the clumsy repeaters, useable only with the M88 packet clip, but wanted a slim stalking rifle for one of the "new high speed" smokeless cartridges without spending much money on a break-open or falling block rifle
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

Make mine a Minaska

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 03:50:19 PM »
Manlicher schounhauer 6.5 x54 ms

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Re: Hunting Wa rainy day project.... ID this rifle
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 03:52:35 PM »
Would help full gun pic for id

 


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