2nd elk depredation tag ??

[floatinghat]

I had a friend call and ask me if I would like a chance at filling a depredation tag this weekend.  Now my question and why I think I will be a tracker and GCD.

1) I filled my special cow permit.
2) I had a west side tag the depredation tag is east side.
3) My West side tag was Muzzy.

I can also think of reason why it should be legit.  But, my rational doesn't matter to the "law" and a stupid mistake and english speaking makes a better public example than "trophy poachers" or just stupid poachers. 

thanks.

GDC= grand canyon donkey

[JLS]

I know a few folks that have used depredation permit, and if I recall correctly they said they had to still have their original issue tag in order to use the depredation permit.  I could be wrong.

[_TONY_]

Why would you still need your state issued tag, just to fill depredation tag? The ones that our family friends get, for deer in their orchards, do not require it...

Should be any weapon also...

[Bob33]

I know a few folks that have used depredation permit, and if I recall correctly they said they had to still have their original issue tag in order to use the depredation permit.  I could be wrong.

Generally speaking that is correct. It is a "permit" not a "tag".

[floatinghat]

I know a few folks that have used depredation permit, and if I recall correctly they said they had to still have their original issue tag in order to use the depredation permit.  I could be wrong.

Generally speaking that is correct. It is a "permit" not a "tag".

Semantics aside, that is what I was thinking. It doesn't count for a second animal.  I guess I could throw a rifle in the truck just in case someone can provide a definitive answer.

Could deer and elk be different?

[Jonathan_S]

I know a few folks that have used depredation permit, and if I recall correctly they said they had to still have their original issue tag in order to use the depredation permit.  I could be wrong.

Generally speaking that is correct. It is a "permit" not a "tag".

Semantics aside, that is what I was thinking. It doesn't count for a second animal.  I guess I could throw a rifle in the truck just in case someone can provide a definitive answer.

Could deer and elk be different?

It's not really semantics 

They're entirely different objects.  For instance, I could draw a bull tag for the Tucannon (not going to happen) and a Colockum cow tag (not going to happen) and I'd still have my general season transport tag to fill (not going to happen)

They are simply another option to fill the original tag.  Permits just increase your options but you can still only fill one tag.  Master Hunter 2nd tags are the only exception for elk hunters.

So yes, deer and elk are different.  Joe Schmoe from...Shelton...can't apply for a "Colockum 2nd Elk Tag, antlerless only"

[floatinghat]

Thanks that make sense.

But we can disagree, you could draw a special permit and have your general tag. But I don't think there are special tags?

 But I think your term on being additional options describes it spot on. I won't be shooting.

[rosscrazyelk]

I have been trying to figure out how to get one of these tags. I was not able to go out this year due to i screwed up and got my wife pregnant at the wrong time and our baby came in the middle of elk season..
Congrats on your cow by the way

[Bob33]

"For instance, I could draw a bull tag for the Tucannon (not going to happen) and a Colockum cow tag (not going to happen) and I'd still have my general season transport tag to fill (not going to happen)".

Not quite right. You could draw a bull elk PERMIT for Tucannon, and also draw a Colockum antlerless PERMIT, Either PERMIT could be used to fill your one TAG.

[Jonathan_S]

"For instance, I could draw a bull tag for the Tucannon (not going to happen) and a Colockum cow tag (not going to happen) and I'd still have my general season transport tag to fill (not going to happen)".

Not quite right. You could draw a bull elk PERMIT for Tucannon, and also draw a Colockum antlerless PERMIT, Either PERMIT could be used to fill your one TAG.

Sorry I guess I wasn't clear enough that I was joking.  I didn't really craft that post with my heart and soul. I meant it in a facetious way.

I was getting at just that...a tag is what goes on the animal, a permit is what lets you hunt (outside general esason guidelines)

[adamR]

I had one of these tags a few years ago and found out I couldn't use it because I already filled my general elk tag.  However, if you did have an elk tag left I think you are supposed to use your designated weapon but it could be during any season or out of season.

[TG509hunter]

A depredation "permit/tag" .... Whatever you want to call it, are tags handed out to landowners to help manager the elk population to prevent damage to crops, fences, etc. I am pretty sure these permits do not require a transportation tag. The permit itself is the transportation documentation. Think about it ..... If a hunter had to use a elk tag that doesn't help manage/decrease elk populations. I have a close friend who recieves a depredation Coe tag every year. Last year he drew a big bull tag and long story short both tags/permits were legally filled. Some of the landowners even sale the permits/tags for up to $500. Essentially, getting an offer to fill a depredation permit is a sweet deal and it doesnt matter what tag (east/west) you have or what weapon your tag is. As long as you have the depredation permit on you, you can use any weapon as long as you are hunting within the accepted dates. The way I understand it is depredation tags are basically freebies.

[JLS]

A depredation "permit/tag" .... Whatever you want to call it, are tags handed out to landowners to help manager the elk population to prevent damage to crops, fences, etc. I am pretty sure these permits do not require a transportation tag. The permit itself is the transportation documentation. Think about it ..... If a hunter had to use a elk tag that doesn't help manage/decrease elk populations. I have a close friend who recieves a depredation Coe tag every year. Last year he drew a big bull tag and long story short both tags/permits were legally filled. Some of the landowners even sale the permits/tags for up to $500. Essentially, getting an offer to fill a depredation permit is a sweet deal and it doesnt matter what tag (east/west) you have or what weapon your tag is. As long as you have the depredation permit on you, you can use any weapon as long as you are hunting within the accepted dates. The way I understand it is depredation tags are basically freebies.

I think we are mixing apples and oranges here with the types of tags you are talking about.  If it were me, I'd certainly check into it a little further before I pulled the trigger.

[pendoreilleadventures]

I had one for a doe in 133 one year the land owner was given 5 tags because the deer were eating all of his alfalfa out of his barn. I happened to have a left over second deer tag so I was able to use that but it said right on the tag you had to have an unused tag in order to use the permit this was in March.

[runamuk]

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-266

http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/90/Are+there+any+circumstances+when+a+landowner+can+legally+set+his%7B47%7Dher+own+hunting+seasons+and+regulations+on+private+property+in+Washington%3F

Once issued to a landowner by the Commission, a DPP allows the properly licensed landowner to remove damage-causing deer/elk/turkey, or it allows another licensed hunter to be selected by the landowner to take the animal(s).

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-36-051