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Quote from: CAMPMEAT on January 08, 2014, 06:53:44 PMQuote from: xXLojackXx on January 08, 2014, 06:01:44 PMGet a NF. Its all i run for a reason. Superior durability, tracking, reticles, features, glass quality, and warranty. Personally, I prefer the 5.5-22x56mm's with a NPR-1 reticle. WHile Vortex and Leupold make good scopes too, the NF reticles are much thinner and don't block your point of aim at longer distances. I shoot my .338 Edge out to 1,850 yards at 22x without any issues. If you are only going to hunt with it, dont worry about getting the High Speed turrets or a Zero Stop. Those features come into play when you shoot comps and are doping your scope constantly and quickly. Also, I've never paid more than $1500 for my Nightforce scopes. CHeck out Longrangehunting.com or snipershide.com under the classifieds sections, people sell them all the time in great condition. With a fully lifetime transferrable warranty, you are good to go.As far as the .300 RUM out to 900 yards, I would buy the same scope as above, or a more compact and "hunting friendly" option of the 2.5-10x32mm Nightforce with the NPR-1 reticle.$500 range. I can't afford and wouldn't spend that type on money on a scope for a gun you might shoot at an elk maybe once a year. Not cost effective to me. I'd love to have one, but too much money..Sorry, in that case I'd buy something with a good warranty. That .300 RUM can do a number to a scope's ability to function
Quote from: xXLojackXx on January 08, 2014, 06:01:44 PMGet a NF. Its all i run for a reason. Superior durability, tracking, reticles, features, glass quality, and warranty. Personally, I prefer the 5.5-22x56mm's with a NPR-1 reticle. WHile Vortex and Leupold make good scopes too, the NF reticles are much thinner and don't block your point of aim at longer distances. I shoot my .338 Edge out to 1,850 yards at 22x without any issues. If you are only going to hunt with it, dont worry about getting the High Speed turrets or a Zero Stop. Those features come into play when you shoot comps and are doping your scope constantly and quickly. Also, I've never paid more than $1500 for my Nightforce scopes. CHeck out Longrangehunting.com or snipershide.com under the classifieds sections, people sell them all the time in great condition. With a fully lifetime transferrable warranty, you are good to go.As far as the .300 RUM out to 900 yards, I would buy the same scope as above, or a more compact and "hunting friendly" option of the 2.5-10x32mm Nightforce with the NPR-1 reticle.$500 range. I can't afford and wouldn't spend that type on money on a scope for a gun you might shoot at an elk maybe once a year. Not cost effective to me. I'd love to have one, but too much money..
Get a NF. Its all i run for a reason. Superior durability, tracking, reticles, features, glass quality, and warranty. Personally, I prefer the 5.5-22x56mm's with a NPR-1 reticle. WHile Vortex and Leupold make good scopes too, the NF reticles are much thinner and don't block your point of aim at longer distances. I shoot my .338 Edge out to 1,850 yards at 22x without any issues. If you are only going to hunt with it, dont worry about getting the High Speed turrets or a Zero Stop. Those features come into play when you shoot comps and are doping your scope constantly and quickly. Also, I've never paid more than $1500 for my Nightforce scopes. CHeck out Longrangehunting.com or snipershide.com under the classifieds sections, people sell them all the time in great condition. With a fully lifetime transferrable warranty, you are good to go.As far as the .300 RUM out to 900 yards, I would buy the same scope as above, or a more compact and "hunting friendly" option of the 2.5-10x32mm Nightforce with the NPR-1 reticle.
Look for a used Vortex Viper PST on one of the forums.
You said in your original post that you were going to "top out" at 1,000 yards. I notice that most people recommending the NF are talking about shooting over 1,000. I am not a die-hard long range guy, but I shoot out to 800 yards with my Rem 700 7mm mag with a Leupy VXIII with the CDS dial. That's where my CDS dial maxes out. I have buddies that run NFs on a variety of rifles and shoot out to 2,000 yards. Seems like the Night Force is worth the money if you are 1. Shooting past 1,000 yds 2. Going to run it over with your pickup.In my humble, somewhat uninformed opinion, I would go with the Leupy and save a few bucks unless you think you might "get into this as a sport" and start shooting past 1,000 yards regularly.
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor with a Nikon Prostaff 3x9x50, $250 scope on it and it hits steel at 900 yards just using the elevation marks on it. When my gunsmith finished putting on a muzzlebrake he said, try it out at the 400 yard steel plate, I said no, I'll try for the 900 yard plate. I compensated in my head, squeezed the trigger and hit the steel. He said. you just hit the steel ?, of course was my answer. I did it 2 times. You know what, I think I just answered my own question.............. Thanks for all the advice fellas.
Quote from: Pathfinder101 on January 09, 2014, 12:43:00 PMYou said in your original post that you were going to "top out" at 1,000 yards. I notice that most people recommending the NF are talking about shooting over 1,000. I am not a die-hard long range guy, but I shoot out to 800 yards with my Rem 700 7mm mag with a Leupy VXIII with the CDS dial. That's where my CDS dial maxes out. I have buddies that run NFs on a variety of rifles and shoot out to 2,000 yards. Seems like the Night Force is worth the money if you are 1. Shooting past 1,000 yds 2. Going to run it over with your pickup.In my humble, somewhat uninformed opinion, I would go with the Leupy and save a few bucks unless you think you might "get into this as a sport" and start shooting past 1,000 yards regularly. Mabe in a controlled bench situation these options would be ok. Consider paying for out of state tags or waiting to accumulate 10-12 bonus points, gather all of the gear,food,fuel and camping equipment. If you plan on shooting a long ways do you want to count on a scope that has poor low light transmissions or may fog up or is not as clear as you may wish for the one chance you may get at early or late light shooting situations. NOT ME. I took a buddy with me on my horses one day. He was braging about his Bushnell PRO GUIDE TROPHY MODEL SCOPE that only cost him $399.00 He said it is what all the guides use. (he bought the sales pitch) I spotted a deer at about 400 yds.It was late in the day, Overcast conditions, I was not only looking at it with my scope,counting points and measuring eyguard length, when he says" Where is it, I can not see it. I handed him my gun. He took a look and gasped. Looked at the scope,put the crosshair on the deer and pulled the trigger. I asked him "how did you super good trophy guide model work for you???I started shooting steel 2 years ago. I bought an off the shelf Savage Model 10 LE 308 with accutrigger only. I put on a Millett 4x16x50 Tactical scope on it, $375 scope. It shoots 900 yards all day long and actually hits the steel. Nobody in our group out of 18 plus guys uses a Nightforce or high dollar optics. They use $100 scopes up to maybe a $5-$600 scopes. There are Detectives, Border Patrol, US Customs, Navy Seals etc that shoot. These guys are the true hot and heavy Iraq contractor type guys, latest type of equipment guys I know and they still don't use NF. Maybe by choice or out of being married ( ). I have a 6.5 Creedmoor with a Nikon Prostaff 3x9x50, $250 scope on it and it hits steel at 900 yards just using the elevation marks on it. When my gunsmith finished putting on a muzzlebrake he said, try it out at the 400 yard steel plate, I said no, I'll try for the 900 yard plate. I compensated in my head, squeezed the trigger and hit the steel. He said. you just hit the steel ?, of course was my answer. I did it 2 times. You know what, I think I just answered my own question.............. Thanks for all the advice fellas.
I'm going to have to look through the Vortex scopes tomorrow. 80% of my scopes are Pentax and have had zero issues.
Its not what it costs, its getting the best you can afford! Then go out and put it to work!
Quote from: mountainman on December 30, 2013, 08:56:44 PMIts not what it costs, its getting the best you can afford! Then go out and put it to work! Agreed. If you can afford a NF, They are clearer and have better coatings. I just purchased the ATACR 34MM tube 56MM objective. Illuminated reticle. It is amazingly clear and bright. I have Leupold and Huskemaw also. The Huskemaw scope worked very well in New Mexico. The thing I did not like is it is 1/3 Minute click. NF comes in more options. At 1000 yds the variance of a 1/3 minute click is too much error for my taste. I have used Leupold all my life and they have always done a good job. I will always put Leupold on most of my rifles. If I am building a rifle for long range the weight is not a factor. I want it. In that case it will always be a Nf for me.
Quote from: Come Get Some on December 30, 2013, 09:14:20 PMQuote from: mountainman on December 30, 2013, 08:56:44 PMIts not what it costs, its getting the best you can afford! Then go out and put it to work! Agreed. If you can afford a NF, They are clearer and have better coatings. I just purchased the ATACR 34MM tube 56MM objective. Illuminated reticle. It is amazingly clear and bright. I have Leupold and Huskemaw also. The Huskemaw scope worked very well in New Mexico. The thing I did not like is it is 1/3 Minute click. NF comes in more options. At 1000 yds the variance of a 1/3 minute click is too much error for my taste. I have used Leupold all my life and they have always done a good job. I will always put Leupold on most of my rifles. If I am building a rifle for long range the weight is not a factor. I want it. In that case it will always be a Nf for me.can you please explain your reasoning for "percieved error" between 0.1 mil and .25MOA??I read this a lot, and well, it does not make sence. This is why.Take for instance a solution for a 1000 Yard shot this last weekend.Actual drop is 265.13 inches with a 200 yard zero.Solution for cranking the turrets are 7.4 mils, or 25.32 MOA.7.4 mils at 1000 yards is 266.4 inches25.32 MOA at 1000 yards is 265.1 inches, however, as we are restricted to 0.25moa increments, then you coule either truncate to 25MOA or round down to 25.25 MOA. I would round down in this case.25.25 MOA at 1000 yards is 264.37 inchesso, as actual solution is 265.13 inches. The difference between actual and Mil is 1.27 inches.The difference between actual and MOA 0.76 inches.the difference between the MIL and MOA solution is 0.51 inches at 1000 yards...with a rifle that can shoot 0.25 MOA, and add in a 2 MPH wind...there is no way you will see a half inch deviation at 1000 yards..let alone actual hunting distances.
