Urgent Request on Gun Iniatives

[MarkyMark]

I'm not trying to be a smartass. I hope it didn't come across that way. I was just hoping for a couple bullet points that highlighted the impact on hunting.

[csaaphill]

 
NP
to me you did anti gunners often like to hide behind crank statements like that so I took the initiative.
Hope I was clear though at first glance it may not hinder hunting but if could in the longer run!
SHould of said too gun ctrl is not about crime ctrl but about people ctrl and the 2nd amendment was never about hunting but thats been said and done so wanted to use the direct approach.
But NP glad I could help if so!

[csaaphill]

if i could i'd be there to show my voice for I 591 and appose I 594.

[snowpack]

Very scary stuff indeed,Just 1 question how are the cops supposed to know its not your gone in the first place? 

one of the things that leads to more questions and confusion...and more attempts from the antis.  I think the only guns they can be reasonably certain about are the guns with a manufacture date after the date of enactment.  (hasn't been passed and hope it doesn't--so no enactment)  Anything older, then no records or registries so the cops wouldn't know.   

[Dave Workman]

Now I just got through reading the I-591...........Its no good as far as I'm concerned either,we talk about not letting the big G have so much power over our state and then we should vote to not let them enact new gun laws unless its a national standard?  This I-591 needs to go in a differant direction in my op.  It should be more along the lines we the citizens of WA. state as a free state protected by the CONSTITUTION OF THIS UNITED STATES hereby with all the powers given to it by said constitution will not allow any gun registry,or back ground check other than that that is allready law. 

Herein lies the problem with far too many people in our camp.

Steve:  Get your initiatives straight.

I-594 is the one you read, not I-591 which is the measure supported by gun folks, hunters and law enforcement firearms instructors..




Maryland mall shooting helps destroy gun control myths

Three myths of gun control were further eroded with yesterday’s Mall of Columbia shooting in Maryland…

http://www.examiner.com/article/maryland-mall-shooting-further-erode-gun-control-myths

[Westside88]

Now I just got through reading the I-591...........Its no good as far as I'm concerned either,we talk about not letting the big G have so much power over our state and then we should vote to not let them enact new gun laws unless its a national standard?  This I-591 needs to go in a differant direction in my op.  It should be more along the lines we the citizens of WA. state as a free state protected by the CONSTITUTION OF THIS UNITED STATES hereby with all the powers given to it by said constitution will not allow any gun registry,or back ground check other than that that is allready law. 

Herein lies the problem with far too many people in our camp.

Steve:  Get your initiatives straight.

I-594 is the one you read, not I-591 which is the measure supported by gun folks, hunters and law enforcement firearms instructors..




Maryland mall shooting helps destroy gun control myths

Three myths of gun control were further eroded with yesterday’s Mall of Columbia shooting in Maryland…

http://www.examiner.com/article/maryland-mall-shooting-further-erode-gun-control-myths

Dave, perhaps it would be helpful to review the bill numbers and provide a for or against recommendation.
I strongly encourage everyone to at the least send your representatives an email stating your position. If possible go and sign in in person. I know the process can seem futile, but they do notice when they are flooded with input from their constituents. Nothing like filling a hearing room to get their attention.   

[huntrights]

Please take action to help defend and protect our Second Amendment rights!

Pro-gun Initiative 591 Protect Our Gun Rights and anti-gun Initiative 594 will be heard by the House Judiciary Committee on 1/28/14 at 1:30 PM in House Hearing Rm A, John L. O'Brien Building. 
http://www.leg.wa.gov/House/Committees/JUDI/Pages/Agendas.aspx

Both initiatives will also be heard by the Senate Law and Justice Committee on 1/29/14 at 1:30 PM in Senate Hearing Rm 1, J.A. Cherberg Building.
http://www.leg.wa.gov/SENATE/COMMITTEES/LAW/Pages/Agendas.aspx


Actions you can take to make a big difference:

•   Attend the Committee hearings at the times and places listed above.  Large numbers of Second Amendment supporters showing up at the hearings will send a clear message to the legislators and the general public via the media that will be present.  Capitol Campus map: http://www.des.wa.gov/SiteCollectionDocuments/campus-map.pdf
o   Carpool if you can; there is limited parking.
o   Sign-in and indicate that you SUPPORT I-591: Protect Our Gun Rights and you OPPOSE I-594.  If you sign up to testify and are called, be brief, have your facts straight, and stay within your allotted time.  Be professional.  There should be pro-Second Amendment groups testifying; their carefully composed testimony will also represent us.  Just being there will make a big difference.
o   Dress appropriately (i.e. no camo, no goofy T-shirts, etc.)
o   NO clapping, cheering, booing, hissing, catcalls, etc.  NO SIGNS.  They don't allow signs.

•   Call the legislative hotline: 1-800-562-6000.  Let them know that you are respectfully asking that your representatives SUPPORT I-591: Protect Our Gun Rights and OPPOSE I-594 the anti-gun initiative.

•   Contact the Committees and respectfully ask them to SUPPORT I-591: Protect Our Gun Rights and OPPOSE I-594 the anti-gun initiative.  Write as if you are testifying in-person: Be brief, have your facts straight, and be professional.  It is best to use your own words, but your message might be something like:

I am writing to respectfully ask that you SUPPORT I-591: Protect Our Gun Rights because it is very simple and will protect our Second Amendment rights. 

I am also writing to respectfully ask that you OPPOSE I-594 which is an unnecessary, over-reaching attack and burden on the rights and freedoms of law-abiding citizens; it will have no effect on criminals and do nothing to prevent the malevolent and evil acts of criminals.


House Judiciary Committee
http://www.leg.wa.gov/House/Committees/JUDI/Pages/MembersStaff.aspx

Email addresses (copy and paste the list or use their individual contact pages):

Laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov; drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov; jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov; terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov; roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov; larry.haler@leg.wa.gov; steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov; brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov; dick.muri@leg.wa.gov; tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov; maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov; matt.shea@leg.wa.gov; brady.walkinshaw@leg.wa.gov


Senate Law and Justice Committee
http://www.leg.wa.gov/Senate/Committees/LAW/Pages/MembersStaff.aspx

Email addresses (copy and paste the list or use their individual contact pages):

mike.padden@leg.wa.gov; steve.oban@leg.wa.gov; adam.kline@leg.wa.gov; Jeannie.darneille@leg.wa.gov; kirk.pearson@leg.wa.gov; Jamie.pedersen@leg.wa.gov; pam.roach@leg.wa.gov


We need to work together on this issue and others that are likely to come our way in the near future.

Thank you for your help.


Please pass this on to others that want to protect and defend our Second Amendment rights.


Also see the NRA-ILA article on the subject:
"Washington: “Universal Handgun Registration” Scheme to be Heard Next Week in Olympia"

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/1/washington-%E2%80%9Cuniversal-handgun-registration%E2%80%9D-scheme-to-be-heard-next-week-in-olympia.aspx

[Greenhorn]

When I called the legislative hot line the lady asked if I had any other instructions for my representatives and senator and I asked her to ask them to pass it onto the separate committee members.   We will see if that helps.

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[huntrights]

The hearings are today and tomorrow.  Please make a showing if you can.  The physical presence of lots of Second Amendment supporters will make a big difference.  All can sign-in and check the box to SUPPORT I-591 and OPPOSE I-594.

Thank you.

[huntrights]

Can someone put both complete bills on the thread please?

SUPPORT
I-591: Protect Our Gun Rights
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Initiatives/Initiatives/INITIATIVE%20591.pdf

OPPOSE
I-594 (The anti-gun, whittle away at our rights, more useless bureaucratic red-tape initiative that affects only law-abiding citizens and does nothing to prevent the malevolent and evil acts of criminals)
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Initiatives/Initiatives/INITIATIVE%20594.pdf

[CementFinisher]

how did it go guys? did we get much support?

[Greenhorn]

how did it go guys? did we get much support?

I would like to hear also,  only heard on the radio about Gabby Giffords testifying for 594.

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[huntrights]

There was a huge turnout, but it was hard to tell who was on which side of the fence.  Much of the support testimony for I-594 was emotionally based just as it was for all of the anti-gun legislation introduced last year.  Our sincere sympathy and condolences should go out to all people that suffer loss through violent crimes; however, we should never give up any of the rights and freedoms guaranteed to us by the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights (i.e. the Second Amendment).

Several representatives from pro-gun and pro-hunting organizations supporting us did an excellent job with their testimonies.  Those that I recall hearing were the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Washington Arms Collectors, the Hunters Heritage Council, and some others (I cannot recall their names).

I would encourage all who can make it to please attend tomorrow's Senate Law and Justice Committee hearing.  At the very least, please take advantage of the Legislative hotline and the email addresses provided to communicate to both Committees.  Your voice does make a difference.  Please let them hear from you; help to protect and defend our Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Thank you.

[huntrights]

I hope we see a large turnout of Second Amendment supporters at the Senate Law and Justice hearings today.

[actionshooter]

We need to keep this up top. I'm not sure people realize how bad I594 is for gun owners. There was a good turnout on the pro- side today, but its hard to tell.