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Quote from: wolfbait on March 14, 2014, 08:29:51 PMI would have to agree with Bigmacc, a couple of years after hunting cougars with hounds was shut down we had a problem like we are having now, except now it is far worse. The screamers are those folk from the wet side, they want that cat killed, they don't want to have to worry about their kids playing out in the snow or waiting for the school bus.When a cougar causes problems on the wet side, that cougar is hunted down immediately and removed one way or the other. I think wolves will have a very different affect on them, they are starting to see the problems we on the east side are having, and they are learning from us, they are learning about the lies that the environmentalists $$ AKA the USFWS and WDFW have told. By the way the Wet-side has many wolves already, WDFW just does not want to confirm any wolf packs there at this time, isn't that right Donny.Some of those screamers are also now living in places where there were no houses prior to the ban and a number of them are out of state transplants. The ban was a bad idea, no doubt, but if you pay attention you'll find newer housing developments are often involved.Tons of wolves west of the mountains? They must be the rejects because we have a whole mess of elk with hoof rot that don't seem to be getting eaten.
I would have to agree with Bigmacc, a couple of years after hunting cougars with hounds was shut down we had a problem like we are having now, except now it is far worse. The screamers are those folk from the wet side, they want that cat killed, they don't want to have to worry about their kids playing out in the snow or waiting for the school bus.When a cougar causes problems on the wet side, that cougar is hunted down immediately and removed one way or the other. I think wolves will have a very different affect on them, they are starting to see the problems we on the east side are having, and they are learning from us, they are learning about the lies that the environmentalists $$ AKA the USFWS and WDFW have told. By the way the Wet-side has many wolves already, WDFW just does not want to confirm any wolf packs there at this time, isn't that right Donny.
Quote from: AspenBud on March 15, 2014, 08:01:04 AMQuote from: wolfbait on March 14, 2014, 08:29:51 PMI would have to agree with Bigmacc, a couple of years after hunting cougars with hounds was shut down we had a problem like we are having now, except now it is far worse. The screamers are those folk from the wet side, they want that cat killed, they don't want to have to worry about their kids playing out in the snow or waiting for the school bus.When a cougar causes problems on the wet side, that cougar is hunted down immediately and removed one way or the other. I think wolves will have a very different affect on them, they are starting to see the problems we on the east side are having, and they are learning from us, they are learning about the lies that the environmentalists $$ AKA the USFWS and WDFW have told. By the way the Wet-side has many wolves already, WDFW just does not want to confirm any wolf packs there at this time, isn't that right Donny.Some of those screamers are also now living in places where there were no houses prior to the ban and a number of them are out of state transplants. The ban was a bad idea, no doubt, but if you pay attention you'll find newer housing developments are often involved.Tons of wolves west of the mountains? They must be the rejects because we have a whole mess of elk with hoof rot that don't seem to be getting eaten." if you pay attention you'll find newer housing developments are often involved." I have paid "attention" and I don't see cougars or wolves honing in on new housing developments. Are you suggesting that the cougars and wolves need more habitat?
The greenies don't want them in the west side urban areas because they know that tolerance for wolves will drop. Case in point, Representative Kretz from NE WA wrote a bill to translocate wolves to western WA so everyone could share in the wolf love. There was fierce opposition to the bill and it got nowhere....
Quote from: bearpaw on March 17, 2014, 06:55:29 AMThe greenies don't want them in the west side urban areas because they know that tolerance for wolves will drop. Case in point, Representative Kretz from NE WA wrote a bill to translocate wolves to western WA so everyone could share in the wolf love. There was fierce opposition to the bill and it got nowhere....Time for my I don't agree with you. I think the inflated requirements for the wolf plan are intended to be used as padding for wolf numbers because WDFW recognizes that wolves will experience heavy hunting pressure in the beginning when a season opens. Any plan that would involve moving wolves around defeats the purpose as the goal is to likely get the population to a point such that it spills over into the west side. Wolves west of the mountains will have different issues surrounding them than in the east, they'll have less hunting pressure, particularly on private timber lands that are locked up from vehicle access, and by the time they are there the numbers east of the mountains will be high enough to withstand just about anything.That's what I think is going on anyhow.
Quote from: AspenBud on March 17, 2014, 08:22:23 AMQuote from: bearpaw on March 17, 2014, 06:55:29 AMThe greenies don't want them in the west side urban areas because they know that tolerance for wolves will drop. Case in point, Representative Kretz from NE WA wrote a bill to translocate wolves to western WA so everyone could share in the wolf love. There was fierce opposition to the bill and it got nowhere....Time for my I don't agree with you. I think the inflated requirements for the wolf plan are intended to be used as padding for wolf numbers because WDFW recognizes that wolves will experience heavy hunting pressure in the beginning when a season opens. Any plan that would involve moving wolves around defeats the purpose as the goal is to likely get the population to a point such that it spills over into the west side. Wolves west of the mountains will have different issues surrounding them than in the east, they'll have less hunting pressure, particularly on private timber lands that are locked up from vehicle access, and by the time they are there the numbers east of the mountains will be high enough to withstand just about anything.That's what I think is going on anyhow." padding for wolf numbers " that is indicative of the whole wrongfully managed wolf plan.......deceitful, dishonest, and secretive closed door practices by wdfw means the whole wolf program will spiral out of control as expected, but probably worse than expected. Worse for sure in n.e. wa. .