Water dilemma

[baldopepper]

I've hunted areas in Utah where the jack rabbits carry canteens it's so dry, but there are deer there.  We've often wondered what they do for water because in October there is no source within miles. (country is true desert with no trees and only some pockets of scrub brush which are very easy to check for a water source)  It's not hard for me to believe Mr Mykiss's area has no water source.  Mule deer seem to be very adaptable and don't need to go to water on a daily basis, don't ask me where they get the water we all know they need in areas like that. All I know is that there are deer there and we've scouted if for days without finding any water.  (some very big deer come out of the west desert area every year)

[Mr Mykiss]

It's about time somebody believed me!!
However due to the realization that I'm to soft and weak for this hunt I will be signing up for a high fence hunt instead, and not one of those 10,000 acre high fence hunts either, more like the kind where they put em in a cattle chute...

[JM]

How far is the pack in? If it's not too far I'd just make day trips

[Mr Mykiss]

Pack in is about 2 miles.
1. I don't want to do a 3000' climb every morning to start the hunt
1a. Kills energy
1b. Kills time
2. Part of the fun is camping right in the middle of it all

**Exactly 7 months away and I'm starting to iron out the details, I'm proud of myself now but there'll be plenty of room for epic failure down the road

[fillthefreezer]

It's about time somebody believed me!!
However due to the realization that I'm to soft and weak for this hunt I will be signing up for a high fence hunt instead, and not one of those 10,000 acre high fence hunts either, more like the kind where they put em in a cattle chute...

i thought the fact mule deer dont drink water was common knowledge? 

[Mr Mykiss]

Most animals don't drink water. Only camels, guinea pigs and redassed baboons as far as I know...

[JM]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

[Mr Mykiss]

30 min please see previous posts... me S-O-F-T I think I'm gonna try for the melt snow into a jog approach in a few weeks.

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

I never doubt someone's physical abilities (see my bear thread last year), but that's a pretty ambitious pace with no load.

For example, Mt Peak in Enumclaw is 1 mile 1050 ft of elevation gain, my personal record is 15:40, fastest I've heard was 14 min. That's practically running. I did 75 lbs up it last week and it took 35 min.


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[romaknows]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

WOW, 3000 ft and 2 miles in under 30 minutes, I guess I am in really bad shape.

[Timberstalker]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

Can you help me pack this Fall?  I could use you.

[JM]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

WOW, 3000 ft and 2 miles in under 30 minutes, I guess I am in really bad shape.

I guess so

[JM]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

I never doubt someone's physical abilities (see my bear thread last year), but that's a pretty ambitious pace with no load.

For example, Mt Peak in Enumclaw is 1 mile 1050 ft of elevation gain, my personal record is 15:40, fastest I've heard was 14 min. That's practically running. I did 75 lbs up it last week and it took 35 min.


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Never say never, because you just did

[Holg3107]

I agree that sleeping in the backcountry is half of the fun, but if water is that big of a concern then 2 miles and 3000' of elevation gain should only take 30 minutes tops even with gear and not trying to break a serious sweat.

I know it doesn't answer your question, but it could be a solution to your problem.

This is hilarious!!!! 30 minutes tops      JM must be some kind of mountain god or something. 2 miles and 3000' without gear is at least an hour and that's moving pretty good. Normal walking pace is 20 minutes per mile on flat land.

There has to be water access somewhere.
If not I would pack in water and store it during scouting trips. Or do a pre-trip water run. One guy could take 6 gallons up in one trip and come back down in the same day. If you and your hunting partner did that once and stored it you would be good to go.

[Karl Blanchard]

Be willing to put quite a bit of money on JM being able to walk most on this forum into the ground............just sayin.