SSS : poll

[bowhunterwa87]

 

[wence5]

I woulnd not turn in anybody for wolf poaching.But i woulnd not shoot a wolf,care about my hunting rights way too much for that.

I understand what you are saying, but what about our hunting rights being taken away because the wolves destroyed the elk and deer herds? Not pitching on you or saying you should break the law, just something to think about. 

[pianoman9701]

I wouldn't kill a wolf until it's legal either. It's more than your hunting rights that are at stake, it's your freedom, especially in the western two thirds of our state where they still enjoy federal ESA protection. I worry about the ungulates and think the plan is a disaster. I am constantly on the phone or meeting with my state senator about wolves and the appointed officials who love them. I also don't have a ranch or live in wolf country...yet. Once they sell tags, I'm all in.

[villageidiot]

History repeats itself.  This same thing happened when Hitler took over Germany.  The government decided it was the LAW that you need to turn in any Jew because they were the enemy and evil people.  Most people fell for this and followed the law but a few did not.  Some even harbored Jews and helped them.  If they were caught they were executed and demonized by the government.  After the war the truth was revealed very clearly even though most everybody knew this was wrong but they followed the governments request and fear of punishment also.  A few people actually survived that horrific mess.  In the end, who were the heroes?
  We all know whats happening with the wolf reintroduction and mass killings they are doing to our wildlife and livestock industry.  It's a very difficult situation and decision each one has to make.  Either way you go there are consequences.

[Northway]

I would agree with P-mans oppion of "staying beyond approach", however since we do not have ANY support from the WDFW or the politicians i don't think it matters. With out departmental support or Political support hunters either die a slow death or a quick one. Unless there is some kind of ideological change in this state the best we can do is hold the line, we certainly wont make any real gains....

EVEN if some one a mild as Rob Mckenna had been elected GOV he wouldn't likely be overly concerned about hunting and what is going on... We would have a chance, but he would likely be preoccupied with state revenue, budgets, shoots etc. About the best outcome would be to get some REAL sportsman running the WDFW again.

Sorry, but you're way off the mark ST in my opinion. Hunters may only comprise just under 4% of the population, but our activities/sport are currently supported by over 80% of the population. Yes, hunting is supported by a large majority. But, when we make the statements that are being made here, we'll lose that public support. The public has been brain-washed into thinking wolves are good under almost any circumstance. But they also think, as do many hunters, that lawless poachers are bad. Combine the two and give the general public the impression that hunters in general support the illegal killing of those big cuddly critters and you lose much of your non-hunter support, support that's necessary for us to accomplish many other things like a hunting rights amendment.

We'd be much better off educating the public about the downside of the wolf plan than publicly saying "forget it, I'm doing what I want regardless of the law", and making all of us look like extremist poaching wackos.

Some people support the idea of hunting not necessarily because they are hunters themselves, but because they have romantic notions of it as a sport and as an important part of our culture and history. Does that protect hunters from overreach in terms of rules & regulations? No, not necessarily, but I believe it does provide a strong layer of protection for the sport, in general.

It's the history and culture surrounding ranching that helps protect that industry, as another example. For a lot of people, it's not about what ranching actually is or isn't in our current day & age, it's about what their vision of it is. That's what gets people who have no connection to it to strongly advocate.

In terms of how the public will react to poaching, it depends on what else is going on. How is the economy? Has there been a terrorist attack or other major world events occurring? At certain times the backlash could be higher, or nothing, depending on the surrounding circumstances.

[Jingles]

To those saying they are hesitant to say one way or the other what they would do for fear of it coming back to haunt you later there comes a time when you have to either chit or get off the pot. If you don't stand for what is important to you, you might as well buy a case of KY jelly cuze it's gonna get shoved up your --- because you are gutless to take a stand on anything. Like the song says "If you don't stand for something you'll Fall for anything"

[wolfbait]

I have seen what wolves do to deer, how they kill them slowly here in the Methow and the same with elk etc. on wolf sites.  The cold hard reality of what the wolves are doing to WA was once agin clear this morning, as we came upon a fresh wolf killed doe. They jumped her a hundred yards from where she breathed her last, we followed her trail of hair and guts that led to her end where they ate the fawn she was carrying and a bit off her hindquarters.

The anger at such waste I don't think can truly be expressed. SS



 

[Curly]

The anger at such waste I don't think can truly be expressed. SS

I like the two s' so idea too.....I mean who carries a shovel?

[wolfbait]

We see this same deal every spring, wolves killing does just for the fawns, guts and hair and another dead doe. You would think we would get use to it after awhile. And you wonder why I have no respect for those who lie about what has and is happening in WA.