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Offline HuntandFish

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2014, 08:16:15 PM »
I would agree that the new ford diesel is a powerhouse.....it will be a force to be reckoned with if it proves it self for a few more years.  I want to see what kind of mileage they get when they are 10+ years old.   :tup:

Huh, we have a couple of these at work and they are weak, lack a ton of power, and sway all over the road.

I am assuming they are chassis cabs? Because the consumer rigs are not, short on power! And the suspension is great! Chassis cabs have a de-tuned engine and different suspension, I have driven both and they are night and day difference. So don't let your work truck guide you on a standard super duty performance.

I don't know what a Chevy or dodge chassis cabs are like compared to there consumer market trucks. Because no one buys them :chuckle:

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2014, 08:16:52 PM »
Why someone has not bought this is beyond me.  If I needed a rig I would be on this like stink on pooooo....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

Its a twenty year old rig with less power then a present day 1/2 ton gasser at 50% of the price of a new 1/2 ton gas.

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2014, 08:21:49 PM »
Why someone has not bought this is beyond me.  If I needed a rig I would be on this like stink on pooooo....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

Its a twenty year old rig with less power then a present day 1/2 ton gasser at 50% of the price of a new 1/2 ton gas.

For the price that rig will tow anything and last another 20 years.  It was obviously well taken care of.  I would gladly pay 12-13K for this truck and save 30K that I would be spending on a new one.   :twocents: 

Fantastic truck. 

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2014, 08:30:50 PM »
Why someone has not bought this is beyond me.  If I needed a rig I would be on this like stink on pooooo....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

Its a twenty year old rig with less power then a present day 1/2 ton gasser at 50% of the price of a new 1/2 ton gas.



For the price that rig will tow anything and last another 20 years.  It was obviously well taken care of.  I would gladly pay 12-13K for this truck and save 30K that I would be spending on a new one.   :twocents: 

Fantastic truck.
   Isn't it funny how everyone has this need for more and more power and are always happy to brag if they have one of the big three that happens to be on top that year and they say the power is needed for safety or whatever yet *censored* has been getting towed for decades with 200hp or less and less then half the torque of current diesels
« Last Edit: April 09, 2014, 08:39:14 PM by Buzz2401 »

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2014, 08:39:44 PM »
The price for new diesel trucks is obscene, look for the best used diesel out there.  Which is the 06 gmc/Chevy duramax/ Allison.  It will pull anything, dependable and you don't have to shut it off to talk to people!
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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2014, 08:48:01 PM »
Why someone has not bought this is beyond me.  If I needed a rig I would be on this like stink on pooooo....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

Its a twenty year old rig with less power then a present day 1/2 ton gasser at 50% of the price of a new 1/2 ton gas.

You are clueless if you think a new half ton could out pull that 7.3.  :yike:

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2014, 08:53:38 PM »
My dad bought a brand new Chevy crew cab with the duramax/allison in it last month and paid 44k. It was truck month or something so he got a lot of rebates. The truck is nice and quiet! Has good power too. We have a new ford with the 6.7 at work and that thing flat moves! It shocked all of my fellow techs at work!

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2014, 09:05:07 PM »
Why someone has not bought this is beyond me.  If I needed a rig I would be on this like stink on pooooo....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

Its a twenty year old rig with less power then a present day 1/2 ton gasser at 50% of the price of a new 1/2 ton gas.

You are clueless if you think a new half ton could out pull that 7.3.  :yike:

That year 7.3L had 425lb-ft of torque  a new eco boost has 420lb-ft. The ford 6.2L has 434 of torque.  Those old power strokes were gutless stock. Can they be pumped up sure.

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2014, 09:09:04 PM »
I bought the first new style 7.3 /350 diesel truck in Washington state. It has 400,000 mileso on it and drives great. I have pulled everything you can put behind a truck and it has never let me down. I can go to Redding California on 3/4 of a tank of fuel.
 Having said that I have owned an 06/ 6.0 liter. I sold it back to the dealership in 2012 for 28k. It had 85,000 miles on it. I had trouble from the start with the EGr and oil cooler. Would not own one again if you gave me one for free. I traded up for a 2012 F450 6.7 Scorpion. WOW. Best truck I have ever owned. It has a 4.3 gear ratio in the rear end and 400 horsepower stock. I get 18 MPG on the freeway with a low rear end gear ratio. I tow a 46Ft goosneck boat trailer with a 25,000 lb boat on it. My load is 38,000 Lbs. The truck does not know it is there. Turns sharper than any other full sized truck on the market. I asked the mechanic I have known at the Ford dealership for over 12 years what kind of problems thay have had with the new motor. He said other than changing the oil he has never had to work on one. They came out in 2010. I have never had a truck that was so responsive and easy to drive. I also tow a gooseneck trailer with 10 tons of hay over the pass 8-10 times a year. How fast do you want to go. Both of my sons have a 2013 and a 2014 F350. They both have a 3.5 rear gear ratio. They are both getting between 22-25 MPG on the highway. There is not any other brand of truck on the market that you can work as hard as a Ford and have it last. The Dodge trucks have terrible brake life and no top end power. The Chevy trucks( I have always been a chevy guy until I bought my first ford) Are plush ,but if you work them as hard as a Ford they fall apart. The chevy has an allison 1000 transmission. The new Ford has a Allison 3000 Transmission. I get 80,000+ miles out of the brakes on my Fords. The doors do not sag at all even at 400,000 miles like a chevy door does at 100,000 miles The Dodge trucks can not be driven at slow speeds for very long or you have to take them out on the highway and blow them out. 3 buddies have new ones and do not like them. You can not buy a tougher more dependable truck with more stock horsepower and better towing capacity or a sharper turning radius Than the new Ford F series. Not just my opinion a proven fact. I do not get passed by any other truck on the highway. Especially if they have any load at all.

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2014, 09:18:22 PM »
Why someone has not bought this is beyond me.  If I needed a rig I would be on this like stink on pooooo....

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,150478.msg1998304.html#msg1998304

Its a twenty year old rig with less power then a present day 1/2 ton gasser at 50% of the price of a new 1/2 ton gas.

You are clueless if you think a new half ton could out pull that 7.3.  :yike:

That year 7.3L had 425lb-ft of torque  a new eco boost has 420lb-ft. The ford 6.2L has 434 of torque.  Those old power strokes were gutless stock. Can they be pumped up sure.

 My 1999 F350 7.3 has a ton of power STOCK and 400,000 miles on it. At 300,000 I checked the bearings at there was only .010 of an inch of wear. Great mileage and bulletproof. I dare anyone to find any other (STOCK) diesel truck out there with 400,000 miles than can hold up to my F350 . Original Turbo. The only thing I have replaced was the Tranny at 275,000 and injectors at 300,000.

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2014, 09:22:29 PM »
They will run damn near forever and they have plenty of power but besides doing it at a lower rpm they don't have any more power then the biggest gas engines available from any of the big truck brands.

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2014, 09:33:48 PM »
They will run damn near forever and they have plenty of power but besides doing it at a lower rpm they don't have any more power then the biggest gas engines available from any of the big truck brands.

You are right about diesels running forever, but wrong about a gas pot having the same power.   :sry: 

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2014, 09:36:55 PM »
They will run damn near forever and they have plenty of power but besides doing it at a lower rpm they don't have any more power then the biggest gas engines available from any of the big truck brands.

Sorry but you can't be more wrong....yikes!

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2014, 09:36:56 PM »
1995 12V auto 280k miles

2nd turbo
50HP DDP sticks
#10 fuel plate
3k GSP
timing turned up a little, 16.5*

3rd transmission.   Stock tranny had convertor slippage, rebuilt it HD - then an input shaft broken.  3rd tran rebuild was my fault I had a cooler line break.  Now it has mag tek deep transmission pan, and external oil cooler w fan.


4" turbo back w/ high flow muffler
2 wheel bearings on the front
tie rod ends rebuilt twice, now it has upgraded arms.
new power steering pump with a bracket to stop torque
got some other bracket for steering too but I can't remember what it is - truck finally steers and drives awesome.
KDP
front/rear main seals

Now I need more air, the air filter minder guage will suck almost into the red now, when stock it wouldn't budge even with a packrat nest in the airbox  :chuckle:  (true story)

lot of other crap done to it too, but it still beats a new truck payment  :tup:
1995 12V, I bought it used in 1998 and had it paid off by 2000.   Makes 14 years of no truck payment  :party1:

She sure runs good, and I'd take it to Alaska tomorrow with a bobcat on the gooseneck.  Best of all if I break down I know every part on that truck.
If N Korea EMP's the USA I expect the truck value to skyrocket, so it's an investment  :tung:

« Last Edit: April 09, 2014, 09:46:32 PM by KFhunter »

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Re: Looking to buy a diesel
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2014, 09:40:12 PM »
They will run damn near forever and they have plenty of power but besides doing it at a lower rpm they don't have any more power then the biggest gas engines available from any of the big truck brands.

You are right about diesels running forever, but wrong about a gas pot having the same power.   :sry:

Well how is having the same torque numbers wrong. Get a truck with same gear ratio and same torque they should tow very close to the same.   I have towed with a stock 7.3 and have towed with many gas motors the 7.3 is a dog compared to new engines.  Not trying to say the 7.3 is a bad engine cause we all know its one of the best diesels ever made but anyone who trys to say they are power houses stock hasn't driven many newer trucks.

 


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