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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2014, 12:44:42 AM »
In spite of a harsh winter the moose population has doubled in the last three years since the wolf population declined.

It's likely that without a recovery of the wolf population, the moose herd will continue growing until it reaches a point where it damages it's food supply to the point that the herd crashes for many years. Sort of like the Lolo elk herd.

The scientists studying the Isle Royale wolves and moose agree and believe that within 5 years, if there isn't a recovery of the wolves or a series of bad winters to knock the moose herd down, the moose herd will cause severe and lasting damage to the forest and crash as a result.

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2014, 09:08:44 AM »
"The wolves are struggling,"  :cryriver:  :chuckle:

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2014, 07:32:35 PM »
In spite of a harsh winter the moose population has doubled in the last three years since the wolf population declined.

It's likely that without a recovery of the wolf population, the moose herd will continue growing until it reaches a point where it damages it's food supply to the point that the herd crashes for many years. Sort of like the Lolo elk herd.

The scientists studying the Isle Royale wolves and moose agree and believe that within 5 years, if there isn't a recovery of the wolves or a series of bad winters to knock the moose herd down, the moose herd will cause severe and lasting damage to the forest and crash as a result.

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http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/sites/default/files/annual-report-pdf/wolf%20moose%20annual%20report%202014%20-%20color%20for%20web.pdf

A few moose tags and problem solved! Or they can continue to do the up and down, wolves kill moose off, and then starve, moose recover, wolves recover and kill moose off again. And this was what the fraud Mech based his, the wolf balancing the ecosystem theory on. Wolves don't balance anything they just slaughter on.  But as we know the environmentalist, USFW, and WDFW fail to recognize the fraud, instead they continue to spew the same lies.

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2014, 08:54:47 PM »
In spite of a harsh winter the moose population has doubled in the last three years since the wolf population declined.

It's likely that without a recovery of the wolf population, the moose herd will continue growing until it reaches a point where it damages it's food supply to the point that the herd crashes for many years. Sort of like the Lolo elk herd.

The scientists studying the Isle Royale wolves and moose agree and believe that within 5 years, if there isn't a recovery of the wolves or a series of bad winters to knock the moose herd down, the moose herd will cause severe and lasting damage to the forest and crash as a result.

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http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/sites/default/files/annual-report-pdf/wolf%20moose%20annual%20report%202014%20-%20color%20for%20web.pdf

Not sure where you missed it, but that's what hunting is for, removing excess animals from a herd and keeping herd numbers stable over the long term. Problem Solved!  :tup:
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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2017, 08:07:20 AM »
All but 2 of the wolves are dead now. Moose population has been booming.

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2017, 08:17:18 AM »
In spite of a harsh winter the moose population has doubled in the last three years since the wolf population declined.

It's likely that without a recovery of the wolf population, the moose herd will continue growing until it reaches a point where it damages it's food supply to the point that the herd crashes for many years. Sort of like the Lolo elk herd.

The scientists studying the Isle Royale wolves and moose agree and believe that within 5 years, if there isn't a recovery of the wolves or a series of bad winters to knock the moose herd down, the moose herd will cause severe and lasting damage to the forest and crash as a result.

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http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/sites/default/files/annual-report-pdf/wolf%20moose%20annual%20report%202014%20-%20color%20for%20web.pdf

I've never unstood your thought process. Maybe back in the day would this be valid, we now have sound management practices to manage populations, I'm betting folks wouldn't mind having a few more moose tags to keep the overbrousing under control....  carry on
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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2017, 08:19:09 AM »
The wolf population plummeted. The moose population exploded. Who could have ever imagined that.
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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2017, 08:21:00 AM »
Weird.
It's like one affects the other almost directly.
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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2017, 08:29:36 AM »
In spite of a harsh winter the moose population has doubled in the last three years since the wolf population declined.

It's likely that without a recovery of the wolf population, the moose herd will continue growing until it reaches a point where it damages it's food supply to the point that the herd crashes for many years. Sort of like the Lolo elk herd.

The scientists studying the Isle Royale wolves and moose agree and believe that within 5 years, if there isn't a recovery of the wolves or a series of bad winters to knock the moose herd down, the moose herd will cause severe and lasting damage to the forest and crash as a result.

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http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/sites/default/files/annual-report-pdf/wolf%20moose%20annual%20report%202014%20-%20color%20for%20web.pdf

I've never unstood your thought process. Maybe back in the day would this be valid, we now have sound management practices to manage populations, I'm betting folks wouldn't mind having a few more moose tags to keep the overbrousing under control....  carry on

Isle Royale is an national park, no hunting allowed.  I’m curious as to how they plan to control over population of the moose with the wolves gone.

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2017, 08:31:42 AM »
Crazy isn't it....

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2017, 08:46:55 AM »
In spite of a harsh winter the moose population has doubled in the last three years since the wolf population declined.

It's likely that without a recovery of the wolf population, the moose herd will continue growing until it reaches a point where it damages it's food supply to the point that the herd crashes for many years. Sort of like the Lolo elk herd.

The scientists studying the Isle Royale wolves and moose agree and believe that within 5 years, if there isn't a recovery of the wolves or a series of bad winters to knock the moose herd down, the moose herd will cause severe and lasting damage to the forest and crash as a result.

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http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/sites/default/files/annual-report-pdf/wolf%20moose%20annual%20report%202014%20-%20color%20for%20web.pdf

I've never unstood your thought process. Maybe back in the day would this be valid, we now have sound management practices to manage populations, I'm betting folks wouldn't mind having a few more moose tags to keep the overbrousing under control....  carry on

Isle Royale is an national park, no hunting allowed.  I’m curious as to how they plan to control over population of the moose with the wolves gone.


The whole island is treated as an ongoing study. The moose were there before the wolves. Wolves have only been there since the 1950's when they crossed on the frozen lake.

http://www.isleroyalewolf.org/overview/overview/at_a_glance.html
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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2017, 08:51:35 AM »
Controlled hunting is the best solution, and not entirely unprecedented.

https://www.nrahlf.org/articles/2016/4/27/dispelling-the-myth-about-no-hunting-on-national-parks/
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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2017, 08:57:56 AM »
I did a canoe/portage trip across the Island back in the 1980s.  There were plenty of moose back then.  Also some of the best walleye fishing I’ve ever seen.  Looks like the place has changed a lot since then.

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Re: Isle Royale Wolf Decline Boosts Moose
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2017, 09:00:04 AM »
Controlled hunting is the best solution, and not entirely unprecedented.

https://www.nrahlf.org/articles/2016/4/27/dispelling-the-myth-about-no-hunting-on-national-parks/


I think it would be similiar to Antelope island

 


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