euthanizing elk with hoof rot....

[pianoman9701]

When I helped my dad with his disabled hunter permit down in the St Helens area a couple years ago, he shot at a cow in a herd of 8 or so and I think most of them were limping.

Then later we watched another larger herd and I bet half of them were limping.  It is a sad deal.

I wonder if burning the cuts would be a benefit by killing off some of the bacteria?    I wonder if there is a way they can study that?

 It would be a shame to have the healthy (seemingly anyway) elk have the bacteria get on their hooves.

I guess WDFW just was hoping the problem would just go away on its own, but that has not proved to be the case.     

I think the reason they spray so much is because of the EPA and smoke limits. I'd be all for going back to slash and burn logging.

[Curly]

Wow Pman! Way to totally misunderstand a post! 

I've done that before too.  Usually because I'm reading too fast because I should be working instead of taking a break to catch up on some forum topics real quick.

BTW - welcome to the sight Birddog.    

[Curly]

When I helped my dad with his disabled hunter permit down in the St Helens area a couple years ago, he shot at a cow in a herd of 8 or so and I think most of them were limping.

Then later we watched another larger herd and I bet half of them were limping.  It is a sad deal.

I wonder if burning the cuts would be a benefit by killing off some of the bacteria?    I wonder if there is a way they can study that?

 It would be a shame to have the healthy (seemingly anyway) elk have the bacteria get on their hooves.

I guess WDFW just was hoping the problem would just go away on its own, but that has not proved to be the case.     

I think the reason they spray so much is because of the EPA and smoke limits. I'd be all for going back to slash and burn logging.

Yeah, I think that is right.  People complained about smoke and they started spraying more.

I'm just curious how to get rid of the bacteria that they claim is affecting the elk.  Seems like fire would kill it....... 

And maybe if herbicide use is not a cause, then maybe it is indirectly related by way of not having fire has allowed bacteria to grow whereas maybe in the past the bacteria was more controlled due to fire?  (I'm just throwing it out there........don't know how valid the thought is.)

[pianoman9701]

When I helped my dad with his disabled hunter permit down in the St Helens area a couple years ago, he shot at a cow in a herd of 8 or so and I think most of them were limping.

Then later we watched another larger herd and I bet half of them were limping.  It is a sad deal.

I wonder if burning the cuts would be a benefit by killing off some of the bacteria?    I wonder if there is a way they can study that?

 It would be a shame to have the healthy (seemingly anyway) elk have the bacteria get on their hooves.

I guess WDFW just was hoping the problem would just go away on its own, but that has not proved to be the case.     

I think the reason they spray so much is because of the EPA and smoke limits. I'd be all for going back to slash and burn logging.

Yeah, I think that is right.  People complained about smoke and they started spraying more.

I'm just curious how to get rid of the bacteria that they claim is affecting the elk.  Seems like fire would kill it....... 

Either fire or the truth, or both. 

[bbarnes]

No one needs to shoot these elk until we have figured out what's killing them.Secondly where have all the masters hunters been throughout all the meetings I only know of three that have been at any.As I have commended them for there efforts where are the other 1300 of them.Seems to me only worried if there the ones who get to do the killing not the curing of the problem.This problem will take all our effects to get it resolved.We need video we need phone calls to law makers and unity.This is a call to action it's time for all sportsman to get engaged.Look at what toxins are being spayed do a little web surfing you'll be surprised at what you will find.

[pianoman9701]

No one needs to shoot these elk until we have figured out what's killing them.Secondly where have all the masters hunters been throughout all the meetings I only know of three that have been at any.As I have commended them for there efforts where are the other 1300 of them.Seems to me only worried if there the ones who get to do the killing not the curing of the problem.This problem will take all our effects to get it resolved.We need video we need phone calls to law makers and unity.This is a call to action it's time for all sportsman to get engaged.Look at what toxins are being spayed do a little web surfing you'll be surprised at what you will find.

My advise: Invite, don't antagonize. We need all of the support we can get from our fellow hunters. I'm out for the night. See you all.

[Bob33]

Secondly where have all the masters hunters been throughout all the meetings I only know of three that have been at any.As I have commended them for there efforts where are the other 1300 of them.Seems to me only worried if there the ones who get to do the killing not the curing of the problem.

That's a silly statement. Just because someone doesn't attend a meeting doesn't mean he doesn't care. If I attended every meeting in which I had an interest, I'd be busy 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and still wouldn't get to a 1/10th of them.

[mikeybuck]

I always thought that wdfw should stop being so tight with the tags and maybe give out a few more tags in the affected areas.
I know a bunch of people who would have no problem killing one and frying it up on the grill.
But no,.... they give out the same amount of tags, if not less, yet now they (we) are going to pay people to kill these elk.

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[billythekidrock]

I always thought that wdfw should stop being so tight with the tags and maybe give out a few more tags in the affected areas.
I know a bunch of people who would have no problem killing one and frying it up on the grill.
But no,.... they give out the same amount of tags, if not less, yet now they (we) are going to pay people to kill these elk.

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There were he hundreds of extra permits for the last six years or so.