Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????

[PA BEN]

Thanks for the good input I think I'm going to start reloading my own.

[demontang]

Here is a .338 200gr accubond (weight179gr) and a 200gr BT( weight:dunno:) both recovered from mule deer at about 160-200yd shots. The accubond broke the hip and traveled down the spine up to the shoulders then went into the vitals ending up stuck in a rib. The BT was a quartering away shot put right behind the shoulder and was under the skin 8" in front of the opposite shoulder in the neck.  I think that bullet construction makes a world of difference.

Accubond


BT/accubond

[Intruder]

I'm an advocate for bigger is better if you can shoot it well.  I used a 225 grain bullet and if I had to do it again, I might consider a 250 grain bullet for my .358.  This doesn't happen if the bullet used is larger.  It can't hurt...

Certainly nothing wrong with this philosophy if, as you said, you can shoot the big cals effectively.  You're achieving equivalant or better weight retention and bullet penetration by using a monster slug.  That being said, I would still argue that a 160 or 175 grain .284 cal bullet is more than adequate if it holds together.  It's likely that the bullet he was using was just too thin jacketed to handle the impact at the velocity that it was traveling at, and as such it broke apart.  A Core-Lok bullet is not really designed to handle impacts at muzzle velocities.  A-Frames, Fail Safe, Bearclaws, TSX's would have all retained 85+ % and broken the bugger's neck.       

[boneaddict]

Funny thing is you guys are talking muledeer versus moose.  There is a BIG difference.  and the words of intruder ring true "effectively"  is very important when yeildig the big guns.  ALOT cannot.

[WDFW-SUX]

I agree. Shooting a big magnum is way different than shooting a deer rifle.  The first time I shot my 375 Ulra mag I was like 

[demontang]

I was trying to show the difference of bullet design. I have not had a chance to shot anything bigger then a deer with my .338 yet.

[boneaddict]

Oh I know demon, I wasn't putting down your post.  It was more broad spectrum.  Sorry to come off that way.

[boneaddict]

To me a good neck shot is an instant no brainer for a deer, though I never use them.  For a moose, I"D seriously think twice about EVER doing it.

[demontang]

Not a big deal I just want to make sure people know why I put those up.

I might shot one in the neck if its the only shot I had and was loaded up with a 300gr bullet

[PA BEN]

To me a good neck shot is an instant no brainer for a deer, though I never use them.  For a moose, I"D seriously think twice about EVER doing it.

I hear ya on the neck shot, if he was sideways to me, I wouldn't have taken the shot, big wide neck, might miss the bone. But, he was standing strait away from me at 37 yds, I centered on the neck bone and hoped to drop him right there. I didn't miss the bone, the bullet just didn't make it to it.

[popeshawnpaul]

Nobody is saying you have to go buy a big magnum.  The .358 I used with 225 grain bullets doesn't kick as hard as my .243...  It is a tad heavier than the .243 but the .243 uses lighter bullets...  (A .358 is a .308 necked up and a .243 is a .308 necked down, at least that's what I recall...)

[PA BEN]

Not to bring back this Subject, but I was eating some tender loin from my moose and bit into brass and led. The two heavy quartering away shots went through the tender loin. The Rem. Core Lock came appart on impact??? The wt buck I head shot with Core locks this year, too came apart also. I think the 7MM rem mag. is a fast hard hitting gun and needs a good bullet.

[270Shooter]

Yep I would get a bullet that doesn't expand so fast. You the core locts for yotes . You should look into the Nosler Accubond or Partition or the Barnes X Bullets just to name a few