Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????

[jackelope]

i found a bullet in the neck meat of a whitey i killed 2 or 3 years ago. it did not pass through,, and it was nothing but meat and hide/hair...no bone got in the way. not sure what it was caliber wise, but it was about a 30 caliber bullet.
no neck shots for me ever either....

now about those pics...

[Ridgeratt]

Being a fan of the "Elmer Keith" Rule of thumb.

 Big Bullets and Big guns for BIG GAME !!

[PA BEN]

How long you gonna make everyone wait for pictures for crying out loud. 

I'm not at home, I'm on my mom's computer. I'm still trying to post Pict.s

[high country]

there is no shortage of KE, or SD on the bullet you mentioned. I suspect the bullet hit the bone opposite the spinus process, or the tip of the spinus process......just my guess. I have seen many animals fall to neck shots, typically theshock just flattens them on the spot. I personally like to shoot for necks on still critters and like to line my vert cross hair on the spine so my elevation variable can work for me.

do I think you had a bad bullet, no. would I take a shot like that, yes. understand that "high percentage" shots are just that, not magic. I have never seen a critter even stand for a fraction of a second after the neck shots I have seen. any real damage to the cord unplugs the computer.

[Bscman]

any real damage to the cord unplugs the computer.

Guess in this case he had a battery backup... 

(Couldn't resist...)

[addicted]

any real damage to the cord unplugs the computer.

Guess in this case he had a battery backup... 

(Couldn't resist...)

an UPS lol. lets see who knows that one lol.

I would think that would be a kill shot but i'm certain i havent the confidence to take it.

[DeKuma]

If there was a power outage, the UPS would start beeping as a warning, so it must have not been enough to "unplug" his computer.  (yes, I know what it is.  Using it as a foot stool under my desk right now. )

[addicted]

lol thats right they have those little ones.

i was running a generator last month and it shut down all the sudden and the buildings UPS didnt work.  it was a very important building with very important equipment that runs on the very important electricity that wasn't coming

needless to say they werent very happy that their very expensive room sized ups just crapped out. somehow it was our fault too lol

[Intruder]

I assume you noticed how thick the neck hide is on the bull specifically down the back of it.  Then the neck muscle of a rutting bull on top of that is like Rock.  Then the fact their vertabrae is immense.  Probably not a bad round, but not really a good shot choice.   

At 37 yards KE had nothing to do w/ it.... 7mag should be in the ballpark of 3200-3300 ft. lbs of energy at that range.  

What bullet were you using?  I'm guessing it wasn't a bonded, a solid or a partitioned bullet.  

It really sounds like to me it was a penetration issue (different from KE).  I'd be interested in knowing what the weight retention on the bullet was.  If the bullet lost a significant amount of weight it's performance will be severely hammered.  It can also deflect easier within the wound channel.

That same shot in the chest cavity would have likely put that boy down within 50 yards.      

[addicted]

is it possible it hit anything else along the way. or nicked the moose's ass or something along the way.

[PA BEN]

I assume you noticed how thick the neck hide is on the bull specifically down the back of it.  Then the neck muscle of a rutting bull on top of that is like Rock.  Then the fact their vertabrae is immense.  Probably not a bad round, but not really a good shot choice.   

At 37 yards KE had nothing to do w/ it.... 7mag should be in the ballpark of 3200-3300 ft. lbs of energy at that range.  

What bullet were you using?  I'm guessing it wasn't a bonded, a solid or a partitioned bullet.  

It really sounds like to me it was a penetration issue (different from KE).  I'd be interested in knowing what the weight retention on the bullet was.  If the bullet lost a significant amount of weight it's performance will be severely hammered.  It can also deflect easier within the wound channel.

That same shot in the chest cavity would have likely but that boy down within 50 yards.      

175 gr. Rem. core lock. I had the bullet, but some how I have lost it It was a perfact mushroom. It did hit just to the side of the top center of the spine, it was about an 1" in. As far as chest shot, I put two more in him, they hit about 5" apart 1/4'ing away shot, right up into the lungs. These two shots didn't rock him eather. He made it about 300 yds before going down. The 37 yd shot was clear. I used shooting sticks and was very steady. He was facing strait away, I centered the cross hairs on the center of the back of his neck and touched it off. I thought I missed

[addicted]

 He made it about 300 yds before going down.

can't wait to get a tag for one of those. 

any ETA on those pics yet?

[PA BEN]

 He made it about 300 yds before going down.

can't wait to get a tag for one of those. 

any ETA on those pics yet?

Go to "Other Big Game", then 49 moose tag (PA BEN). I sent some cell phone shots to a member to post for me.

[Intruder]

That's just weird.  Core-loks aren't the best bullet but they're certainly decent bullets.  I can't fathom how, at that range, it wouldn't have completely polaxed that bugger.  There had to be some kind of terminal failure of some sort.  Maybe in combination w/ what Highcountry was mentioning. I'm still sticking w/ bullet performance as a key factor.  I've seen a 160 grn Swift A-Frame fired from a 7 mag break the front shoulder of an elk and exit the other side at almost 400 yards.  Something really wacky happened to cause a 175 grn bullet at 37 yards to only go 1" into that bone. 

The fact the the bullet was "mushroomed" is what's got me perplexed.  That indicates to me that the bullet didn't hit that bone going very fast or it would have broken apart and not mushroomed. 

[randall167]

I got the youth moose tag in 01  and put a cow down with one shot to the chest with a 165 gr ballistic tip out of a 30-06. it fell like maybe 25 yards away. so the whole big game , big gun and big bullet doesn't mean anything to me. those 165's have taken 3 elk, a moose and a bear, so i don't think I'm changing anytime soon.