Sportsmen in Idaho Want YOUR Help to Establish New National Monument!

[bigtex]

Would they allow logging or thinning in the monument? What about fire prevention forestry?

Like I've said before, anything that happens now will happen after monument status is reached. So whatever the policy is now in the area will remain the same. As a comparison, there are numerous active oil rigs in the Canyons of the Ancients National Monument in SW CO. Monument status, especially under BLM and USFS management isn't a end all, run it like a national park like many people think.

[Elkaholic daWg]

But it IS an "end run"

  :bash:Obamas pen

[BOWHUNTER45]

Good article about the proposed monument...

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/12/15/2928481/monument-idea-makes-custer-county.html

The monument would be in two counties; Custer and Blaine. Blaine has passed an ordinance in favor of the monument. Custer has passed one in opposition.

As you read in the article the sticking point for Custer is $.

If we went simply by what our county officials tell us then the Metro vote last week would've passed in King County 

I personally would rather side with the numerous hunting groups that are in favor of this since the reason for creating the monument is protecting the land and it's resources. 

In the statesman article it sounds like residents, hunters, and outfitters are concerned and not necessarily in favor. I question if these "claimed" hunting groups are legitimate hunting groups and not groups sponsored by environmental organizations. I did not see RMEF, Mule Deer Foundation, SCI, or Idaho for Wildlife on that list? In fact I've never heard of these groups. Is it possible people are being scammed? 

Anymore it is hard to trust anyone !

[bigtex]

The following was written this week by Steven Rinella, author Meat Eater: Adventures from the Life of an American Hunter, and host of the television show, MeatEater

Hunters and fishermen need to realize that National Monument status is one of the best things that can happen to their hunting and fishing grounds.

For well over a decade I’ve been hunting mule deer and elk on the BLM’s Upper Missouri River Breaks National Monument, in North Central Montana, and it’s proven to be one of the most productive patches of ground that I’ve ever been lucky enough to traipse across.

Most Western hunters have suffered the heartbreaking experience of losing a favorite location to mismanagement, over-development, or ill-thought land swaps, and I love knowing that my favorite spot has an extra layer of protection through its status as a monument.

If you love to hunt and fish in the Boulder-White Clouds, I recommend that you support the push for monument status. Your chest freezer, and your kids, will thank you for it.

Steve with his Missouri River Breaks Natl Monument buck:

http://www.sportsmenforbwc.org/news/

[Elkaholic daWg]

 Re read post #13

[bearpaw]

Just as I expected.....

http://magicvalley.com/fish-and-game-commission-on-national-monument/pdf_2088d2cc-094b-11e4-bf7a-001a4bcf887a.html
Fish and Game Commission on National Monument


http://www.ktvb.com/news/Fish-and-Game-Commission-opposes-monument-266941001.html
Fish and Game Commission opposes national monument
 
by Associated Press
KTVB.COM
Posted on July 13, 2014 at 2:54 PM

SALMON, Idaho - The Idaho Fish and Game Commission is opposing the proposed Boulder-White Clouds National Monument for fear of losing control of wildlife management in the 592,000-acre area.

The decision this past week during a meeting in Salmon was unanimous.

The Times-News reports that the commission approved a letter opposing the monument to Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter and the Idaho Congressional Delegation.

It was supported by several area hunters but drew immediate criticism from sportsmen's groups who long have promoted the monument as a way to enhance habitat for hunting and fishing opportunities under Fish and Game control.

Commission Chairman Fred Trevey, of Lewiston, said without state sovereignty there won't be any meaningful hunting, fishing and trapping in the proposed monument area.

[bigtex]

Commission Chairman Fred Trevey, of Lewiston, said without state sovereignty there won't be any meaningful hunting, fishing and trapping in the proposed monument area.

I wonder if Mr. Trevey hunts on the Craters of the Moon Natl Monument & Preserve in Idaho which is open to hunting. Kind of sounds like to him "monument" = no hunting.

Just a note. Designating monument status takes no authority away from the state 

[dontgetcrabs]

Just a note. Designating monument status takes no authority away from the state 

Maybe not yet.   

[bearpaw]

Just a note. Designating monument status takes no authority away from the state 

Maybe not yet.   

 
I expected Idahoans to be wiser than to ask for monument designation. Every year we read about the federal government trying to take away something from local people. All it takes is an executive order from BHO to erase any hunting on these monuments.

[bigtex]

Just a note. Designating monument status takes no authority away from the state 

Maybe not yet.   

I expected Idahoans to be wiser than to ask for monument designation. Every year we read about the federal government trying to take away something from local people. All it takes is an executive order from BHO to erase any hunting on these monuments.

So does the Idaho Fish and Game Commission speak for everyone in Idaho?

With that mindset I guess we all agree with the WDFW Wolf Plan because it was approved by the WA Fish and Wildlife Commission.

The article you mentioned Bearpaw even mentioned there are hunting/sportsmens groups on both sides of the fence regarding the monument.

[grundy53]

Just a note. Designating monument status takes no authority away from the state 

Maybe not yet.   

I expected Idahoans to be wiser than to ask for monument designation. Every year we read about the federal government trying to take away something from local people. All it takes is an executive order from BHO to erase any hunting on these monuments.

So does the Idaho Fish and Game Commission speak for everyone in Idaho?

With that mindset I guess we all agree with the WDFW Wolf Plan because it was approved by the WA Fish and Wildlife Commission.

The article you mentioned Bearpaw even mentioned there are hunting/sportsmens groups on both sides of the fence regarding the monument.

IDFW is a little bit different then the WDFW.

sent from my typewriter

[CAMPMEAT]

Yup, ATVs are always mentioned in anything that the land grabbers want for themselves. Screw 'em.....

[bearpaw]

Just a note. Designating monument status takes no authority away from the state 

Maybe not yet.   

I expected Idahoans to be wiser than to ask for monument designation. Every year we read about the federal government trying to take away something from local people. All it takes is an executive order from BHO to erase any hunting on these monuments.

So does the Idaho Fish and Game Commission speak for everyone in Idaho?

With that mindset I guess we all agree with the WDFW Wolf Plan because it was approved by the WA Fish and Wildlife Commission.

The article you mentioned Bearpaw even mentioned there are hunting/sportsmens groups on both sides of the fence regarding the monument.

IDFW is a little bit different then the WDFW.

sent from my typewriter

Cmon bigtex, I don't think anyone in any state can speak for every citizen in their state, I'm sure you must realize I was speaking in a generalized manner, I'm certain you would agree, as a whole Idahoans are much different than Washingtonians.

It's no secret I opposed to the WA wolf plan, yet it seems to be what the urban majority desired in Washington at the time it was developed. Only time and experience with wolves on the ground in W WA will change the wolf plan, we are stuck with it even though the bulk of people in NE WA (a minority) are opposed to it.

We talked about the supposed sports groups that supported monument status, I had never heard of most of them and suspect many could be fringe groups developed for certain goals. I do not remember seeing SCI, RMEF, MDF, IFW, or other traditional hunter groups on the list of supporters.