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 :yeah: Just because you "can" do something does not always make it a good idea to do it.  :twocents:
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I just don't see where any rights were infringed.  From what we know, the most likely scenario is:

1.  Guy walks around with rifle and one or more pistols.
2.  Someone gets scared and calls LEO.
3.  LEO responds, finds no crime but asks the guy to voluntarily leave.
4.  Guy leaves.

Would I have called LEO?  Depends on what the demeanor of the guy was.  A guy with four guns really isn't any more dangerous to me than a guy with one gun so the question really is would I call the cops on a citizen with a gun?  Again, not unless I feared for my safety or others.  Same answer as a guy with a crowbar, knife, ninja stars or whatever.

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:yeah: Just because you "can" do something does not always make it a good idea to do it.  :twocents:
If you go out obviously looking to get attention, don't get cranky when you get it.

This guy did nothing half the folks on this forum have not done.
Where do you get he wanted attention.?
He went up a trail to enjoy the company of his guns. Nothing wrong with that.

And just because someone doesn't like your chosen activity is no reason not to do it.

People got to stop seeing the boggy man around every corner.

Walk on mind your own business. Geez.
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I haven't done it.  :dunno: How many guns can you handle effectively at any given time? I would expect that any reasonable person that goes to a public area armed in that manner knows they are gonna get some extra attention. Yes I agree that people should learn to mind their business. But...
People who are possibly on the fence on gun rights and go out and see something like this could easily be pushed to the wrong side of the fence.  :twocents:
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Mystery in the Mountains

By Alex Tresniowski
 
With Few Clues and No Suspects, the Murder of Mary Cooper and Her Daughter Susanna Stodden on a Popular Hiking Trail Shocks Seattle

 They had a plan for the perfect day—hike a trail on Mount Pilchuck, spot lots of birds and keep going until their feet gave out. But what really made July 11 special for Mary Cooper, 56, and her daughter Susanna Stodden, 27—both huge nature lovers—was the chance to spend it together. "Susanna probably hikes once a week but Mary is pretty busy during the year," says Mary's husband, David Stodden, 57. "So I remember how happy Mary was that morning when she left to go on the hike."
 
Only hours later both women were dead, shot and killed on a popular trail in Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest in Washington State. A hiker recalled seeing them on the trail at 10 that morning; another came across their bodies around 2:30 p.m. and called police. Investigators say that robbery was apparently not a motive—Cooper's 1997 Dodge Caravan was found where she parked it at the trailhead—and are looking into several scenarios. One is that the killer may have been a crystal meth addict (the nearby town of Granite Falls has had so many drug problems it's been called Methville); another is that the murders may somehow be linked to the shooting of two Oregon hikers one year earlier. So far, though, police have no major clues or compelling leads. "Our goal is to catch a killer," says Snohomish County sheriff spokesman Rich Niebusch, "and to make them answer for what they've done."
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Mystery in the Mountains

By Alex Tresniowski
 
With Few Clues and No Suspects, the Murder of Mary Cooper and Her Daughter Susanna Stodden on a Popular Hiking Trail Shocks Seattle

 They had a plan for the perfect day—hike a trail on Mount Pilchuck, spot lots of birds and keep going until their feet gave out. But what really made July 11 special for Mary Cooper, 56, and her daughter Susanna Stodden, 27—both huge nature lovers—was the chance to spend it together. "Susanna probably hikes once a week but Mary is pretty busy during the year," says Mary's husband, David Stodden, 57. "So I remember how happy Mary was that morning when she left to go on the hike."
 
Only hours later both women were dead, shot and killed on a popular trail in Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest in Washington State. A hiker recalled seeing them on the trail at 10 that morning; another came across their bodies around 2:30 p.m. and called police. Investigators say that robbery was apparently not a motive—Cooper's 1997 Dodge Caravan was found where she parked it at the trailhead—and are looking into several scenarios. One is that the killer may have been a crystal meth addict (the nearby town of Granite Falls has had so many drug problems it's been called Methville); another is that the murders may somehow be linked to the shooting of two Oregon hikers one year earlier. So far, though, police have no major clues or compelling leads. "Our goal is to catch a killer," says Snohomish County sheriff spokesman Rich Niebusch, "and to make them answer for what they've done."
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Good point Bob! All the more reason for him to be carrying his guns.

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Mystery in the Mountains

By Alex Tresniowski
 
With Few Clues and No Suspects, the Murder of Mary Cooper and Her Daughter Susanna Stodden on a Popular Hiking Trail Shocks Seattle

 They had a plan for the perfect day—hike a trail on Mount Pilchuck, spot lots of birds and keep going until their feet gave out. But what really made July 11 special for Mary Cooper, 56, and her daughter Susanna Stodden, 27—both huge nature lovers—was the chance to spend it together. "Susanna probably hikes once a week but Mary is pretty busy during the year," says Mary's husband, David Stodden, 57. "So I remember how happy Mary was that morning when she left to go on the hike."
 
Only hours later both women were dead, shot and killed on a popular trail in Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest in Washington State. A hiker recalled seeing them on the trail at 10 that morning; another came across their bodies around 2:30 p.m. and called police. Investigators say that robbery was apparently not a motive—Cooper's 1997 Dodge Caravan was found where she parked it at the trailhead—and are looking into several scenarios. One is that the killer may have been a crystal meth addict (the nearby town of Granite Falls has had so many drug problems it's been called Methville); another is that the murders may somehow be linked to the shooting of two Oregon hikers one year earlier. So far, though, police have no major clues or compelling leads. "Our goal is to catch a killer," says Snohomish County sheriff spokesman Rich Niebusch, "and to make them answer for what they've done."
...

Good point Bob! All the more reason for him to be carrying his guns.
Now, now, you got to "stop seeing the boggy man around every corner.". ;)
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I remember that story. I wouldn't go anywhere near granite falls unarmed....

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Do you think those girls wish they would have had two pistols and a rifle?

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I'm more afraid of the guy hiding in the bushes for an ambush like what happened on that horrific day. They were killed in brutal fashion from what I've been told. It also happened on the Pinnacle Lake trail (a few miles from the Mt. Pilchuck trail as the crow flies) which is not a high use trail relative to others in the area. Someone open carrying minding his own business does not bother me but I will observe. I have run into many people with shotguns slung over their shoulder while out hiking and not during hunting season.
It is spooky up on that trail knowing what happened. Especially when you see the memorial.

It would be nice to have clarification on what "several handguns" really means. Or was somebody exaggerating.
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Mystery in the Mountains

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With Few Clues and No Suspects, the Murder of Mary Cooper and Her Daughter Susanna Stodden on a Popular Hiking Trail Shocks Seattle

 They had a plan for the perfect day—hike a trail on Mount Pilchuck, spot lots of birds and keep going until their feet gave out. But what really made July 11 special for Mary Cooper, 56, and her daughter Susanna Stodden, 27—both huge nature lovers—was the chance to spend it together. "Susanna probably hikes once a week but Mary is pretty busy during the year," says Mary's husband, David Stodden, 57. "So I remember how happy Mary was that morning when she left to go on the hike."
 
Only hours later both women were dead, shot and killed on a popular trail in Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest in Washington State. A hiker recalled seeing them on the trail at 10 that morning; another came across their bodies around 2:30 p.m. and called police. Investigators say that robbery was apparently not a motive—Cooper's 1997 Dodge Caravan was found where she parked it at the trailhead—and are looking into several scenarios. One is that the killer may have been a crystal meth addict (the nearby town of Granite Falls has had so many drug problems it's been called Methville); another is that the murders may somehow be linked to the shooting of two Oregon hikers one year earlier. So far, though, police have no major clues or compelling leads. "Our goal is to catch a killer," says Snohomish County sheriff spokesman Rich Niebusch, "and to make them answer for what they've done."
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Good point Bob! All the more reason for him to be carrying his guns.
Now, now, you got to "stop seeing the boggy man around every corner.". ;)

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I remember that story. I wouldn't go anywhere near granite falls unarmed....

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Hey now, we're not all bad  :chuckle: 

Last year I ran into a few shady types while out on Spring Bear hunt. They were in a vehicle on a gated road. I did feel very nervous then.

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I remember that story. I wouldn't go anywhere near granite falls unarmed....

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Hey now, we're not all bad  :chuckle: 

Last year I ran into a few shady types while out on Spring Bear hunt. They were in a vehicle on a gated road. I did feel very nervous then.
I'm not talking about the majority of fine upstanding granite falls citizens. I'm talking about the tweakers.

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I remember that story. I wouldn't go anywhere near granite falls unarmed....

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fixed it for you!  :tup:
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I'm just curious how the call to authorities went (was it a 911 call?)?  Could have been like this:

911:  Hello, 911.  What's your emergency?

Caller:  There is a man hiking on a mountain trail with a rifle, and I'm scared.

911:  Has the man threatened you?

Caller: No, but he is scary.  He is wearing camo and has an assault rifle. I didn't like the look in his eyes.  :o

911:  Ok, help is on the way. 

 :dunno:

 :yeah:
ya more than likely true too in today's society ya!
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