I got a good shooting session in today. shooting the No Excuses I couldnt keep it on an 18 X 18 inch board at 50 yards. grouped good at 20 yards but beyond that it goes all over the place, off of a bench. Tried 80-100 grains of powder, shot 25 to 30 rounds and no grouping at all beyond 20 yards. Pulled a box of Hornady Great Plains bullets out of my gear that I had picked up last year after my powerbelts failed me. Tried the Great Plains bullets and got good 2 inch groups at 50 yards and 3 inch groups at 100. Guess thats what it is going to be this year. Anyone who shoots No Excuses might watch the classifieds in the next couple weeks, I may put the second full unopened box up on here.