i was on private land in the valley in stanwood, it had the only open water ditch i put 6 decoys out and hid under a rail road tressell and the ducks would sit down 100-150 yards away then i would go jump them. fun shooting 2 of the drakes were 50-60 yard shots that i took as a last resort and ended up powdering them, that black cloud really helps u reach out and touch them