Best Tent / Best Bag

[SilkOnTheDrySide]

I don't have quilt experience but there are plenty of experienced backpackers that do, and I think it's safe to say they are not a gimmick and have earned there stripes.

Concerning down, I've got pretty close to 75 nights in my current down bag. Always in a floorless tent with a waterproof bivy.

I keep my entire sleep system in a dry sack while hiking.

I've been in multiple rainstorms and downfalls. Never once has getting my bag wet been an issue..

As others have said, take common sense precautions and its a total non issue.


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[xXLojackXx]

For an enclosed shelter used without the chance of high winds, is go with a BA Super Scout UL2. If you need durability I would choose a Hilleberg Anjan 2 GT or a Nallo 2 GT if it were me.

For a floor less shelter, it's a Kifaru Mega Tarp, annex, and medium stove (if mid to late season).

Lots of people make good bags. Just get one that has at least 850 fill treated down and you'll be alright. My Marmot Hydrogen 30 Long weighs 1lb 12oz and packs down to the size of a grapefruit. Haven't had a complaint yet.

[jackelope]

Here's a good example of down getting wet

 

[cutmymango]

I have used quite a few tents(msr, Easton, big agnes, mountain hardware)...and I have learned you don't want to sacrifice durability for lightweight, like a lot of the ultralight tents available. Im currently using a red label hilleberg nallo gt, its an all season tent, but I think the yellow label hillebergs would be right up your alley. they are 3 season, prioritize lighter weight over durability, but still work wonderfully in heavy rains. id recommend the anjan or the akto. it is definitely an investment, but you would be happy with the results.

[fillthefreezer]

although you said youd rather buy once, id recommend getting some budget gear and use it. find out what you like and dont, then upgrade to exactly what you like.
something like an rei halfdome and montbell or ee bag. learn if you sleep cold or warm. decide if maybe you do want to try floorless. or you dont mind packing extra weight for a little more space.

[Netminder01]

While I don't have nearly the amount of backcountry hunting experience (yet) as others here, I've spent a fair amount of time mountaineering and spending weeks in the woods at a time. My approach this year will be similar to that if I were only backpacking or spending time at a high camp before a summit run. Of course there will be differences (ammo, weapon, camera gear, game bags, etc) but I hope most of my clothing, shelter & food packing approach will follow that hiking/alpine climbing.

There are some great threads on here (as others mentioned) on packing light. A good exercise you might consider is to assemble your pack list and weigh everything - I mean everything. Then read through some of the helpful threads on Hunt WA and also alpine or light pack lists. Micro decisions like cutting your toothbrush in a 1/3 and the containers which we might just include in a camping trip add up. Once you refine your packing list weigh again and you'll see how much effort you just saved yourself.

It's also worth thinking through different scenarios to help inform your packing order and how you might get to specific gear quickly. Imagine getting into your camp site at 9pm after being rained/snowed on all day, cold fingers and tired but also needing to get to specific gear efficiently; mostly heat/fire, dry cloths, shelter & first aid kid, etc. For me, the accessibility to core items is nearly as important as managing pack weight.

[Karl Blanchard]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

[coachcw]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .

[jackelope]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .

That's what beanies are for.

[jjhunter]

Appreciate all of the feedback.

I probably won't decide what to buy until I actually hit "send" on the order.   

This thread has helped immensely!  Thanks!

[Karl Blanchard]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .

That's what beanies are for.

I already wear one of those   I'm more concerned about my skinny ass freezing to death because my back is laying on a 10 degree air pad

[xXLojackXx]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .

That's what beanies are for.

I already wear one of those   I'm more concerned about my skinny ass freezing to death because my back is laying on a 10 degree air pad

Start eating DQ Blizzards and Big Macs. You'll be insulated by November.

[Karl Blanchard]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .

That's what beanies are for.

I already wear one of those   I'm more concerned about my skinny ass freezing to death because my back is laying on a 10 degree air pad

Start eating DQ Blizzards and Big Macs. You'll be insulated by November.

    I'm one of those run, lift, run some more, eat whatever I want and don't gain an ounce kind of guys

[Karl Blanchard]

I think I am just gonna get a 0* and if it ends up not being warm enough then I will have a nice, light, September, early october quilt.  At 25oz, thats still a darn light early season bag.

[PlateauNDN]

I haven't read the whole thread but maybe ask some recent hot shot fire crew member as to what sleepimg bags they uses i seen them sleeping well in rain, wind and hail without a priblem. I just disnt ask at the time.