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Offline JimmyHoffa

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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2015, 09:19:03 PM »
Have there been any attempts to sell off State Parks?  I think they've been in the red for a while now.  Even being subsidized by other lands with the Discover Pass, they are struggling.

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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2015, 09:44:17 PM »
Have there been any attempts to sell off State Parks?  I think they've been in the red for a while now.  Even being subsidized by other lands with the Discover Pass, they are struggling.
Quite a few State Parks in WA have been turned over into county, tribal, and private ownership.

Need to remember that most of the State Parks issues began when the legislature decided to turn State Parks from a largely tax funded agency into an agency that's largely user funded.

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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2015, 09:48:16 PM »
JimmyHoffa, that's a good question. I don't know if there have been any such attempts (and I suspect you may have been posing a rhetorical question anyway).

But your point about state parks continuing to struggle makes me even less interested in federal-to-state tranfer of lands. If they cannot keep things out of the red, even with the addition of increased fees and decreased services and access, I wouldn't predict that things would get better with more land to manage. Unless, of course, they bypassed the interests of hunters and other outdoor enthusiasts who have recreated, worked, and traveled on those federal public lands for decades.

I will do everything I can as a citizen to oppose the transfer of federal lands to states, but I heartily agree with BigTex that it would be wonderful to see some land exchanges that would reduce the checkerboarding that prevents the public from accessing public lands.

By the way, I do hunt DNR and WDFW, and I have had success on state land, but the vast tracts of now-federal forestland would be in real jeopardy if a state acquired it and then hit lean(er) times. Big oil, mining, and timber would come a knockin' and what was land that formerly belonged to all U.S. citizens would never be available in the ways it has been for decades. That's not fear, it's logic.
 
The feds are far from perfect, but because the mission is different than individual states, they can, thankfully, hold the corporate tycoons at bay. By the way, I realize we all need wood, oil, and minerals. I am not anti-extraction, per se. But the large corporations are no one's friend, in the end--not even the friends of the loggers, mill workers, miners, geologists (like my own brother) who work in our local communities in the West.

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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2015, 09:16:48 AM »
Well, at the present state of affairs in this country,  Democrats are opposed to this,  MUST be something "GOOD" for America and American's in the bill !!  :yike:

In all my "land" dealings and JOBS,  ITS always been the FEDS who screwed things UP with the help of the Greenie Wheenies and their attorneys. 

Local control did a better job from the get go!!!  "Boots on the ground"  always trump "paper pushers in high raises"

The only good tree, is a stump!

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Re: Sell-off of public lands is happening.
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2015, 09:42:06 AM »



Local control did a better job from the get go!!!  "Boots on the ground"  always trump "paper pushers in high raises"

As long as the land would stay public I believe the state would do a better job managing it if they were capable of taking it on. The feds have so much red tape that they have to go through to accomplish anything on the land that its easier for them to just abandon roads and then spend billions to fight the extreme wildfires that will soon come
Ain't nothing better than riding a fine horse through new country.
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