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Cold blind problems
« on: July 09, 2015, 05:39:13 PM »
Me and my dog started running cold blinds earlier this week. So far will leave the line but he will not run a straight line. As soon as he is sent he will veer either left or right, then it takes a ton of whistle sits and casts to get him to the bumper. I'm talking 10-20 different casts to get him there. Is that normal for the start of running cold blinds or should I go back to the pattern field? We were on patterns for a few weeks so I feel like he has that down, maybe try pattern blinds in a new field? Or should I just keep running the cold blinds and hope he will eventually figure it all out? Thanks guys I appreciate all the help.

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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2015, 05:53:11 PM »
Just my opinion.
Dog doesnt believe the bird is where you're sending him.

I would work blinds by starting with the basics.

Dog out of the box and heeled 100 yds to drop (pile) 6 birds. I command mark and drop all 6.
Command heel and walk back to the truck. Note use a flag@ the pile so "you" know where to send him.

Your dog has knowlege of the drop and will go there. if he comes back with more then one dont leave more then one.

I used to mow paths in the pasture and play "baseball" with the dog working remotely from the pitchers mound.

You can be where you want to be in a week or so. Stop before it gets boring. And dont play too long in this heat.

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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 05:56:24 PM »
Is that the same as a pattern blind? That was my thought going back to those. Thanks ms for the advice I will do that.

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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2015, 06:19:31 PM »
You're just teaching the dog to trust you.
Dont play games though..... have the bird where you say it is.

Later (hunting season) you can cast down wind of your downed birds, scent will cover the mis-cast if there is one.

Assuming you are training a retriever?
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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2015, 06:21:03 PM »
Yes he is a retriever

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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 07:51:46 AM »
I would follow the advice that you received over on RTF  :chuckle:

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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 08:26:41 AM »
Capt Jacko** recites Lardy material verbatim, can't go wrong with his re-writing of WWLD...what would lardy do..
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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 08:49:43 AM »
Capt Jacko** recites Lardy material verbatim, can't go wrong with his re-writing of WWLD...what would lardy do..

Yes he does. I actually just received TRT yesterday to put my pup through after following Hillmann's puppy program. 
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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2015, 05:04:19 PM »
Yes I did get some good info over there as well as getting g good info here. Doesnt hurt to ask more then one group of people for help. Idont have trt but want it. I never noticed that captain did that till you pointed it out. I am going to use the walk around blinds with my pup tomorrow hopefully that helps out.

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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2015, 09:50:34 PM »
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I'm not the pro. Just keep at it. Pups learn at different rates.... have fun and dont get frustrated.
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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2015, 07:58:59 AM »
I just bought the TRT second addition from a guy on RTF. Watched the whole thing this weekend and really gives me an idea of where i'm at with my 7.5 month old pup.

In his program I am currently working on 3 handed casting and the next step is to add "piles" to the 3 spots.

Happy, do you know of any good areas down here in the Vancouver/North Portland area to train? I've gone over to Sauvie a couple of times but it's time consuming to get over there, and right now the water level is really low. I'll be looking for a swimby pond in the next month or so also.

Thanks
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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2015, 08:35:03 AM »
I just bought the TRT second addition from a guy on RTF. Watched the whole thing this weekend and really gives me an idea of where i'm at with my 7.5 month old pup.

In his program I am currently working on 3 handed casting and the next step is to add "piles" to the 3 spots.

Happy, do you know of any good areas down here in the Vancouver/North Portland area to train? I've gone over to Sauvie a couple of times but it's time consuming to get over there, and right now the water level is really low. I'll be looking for a swimby pond in the next month or so also.

Thanks

I don't know that area well at all. Sorry. I don't get down south too often.
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Re: Cold blind problems
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2015, 12:35:34 PM »
I just bought the TRT second addition from a guy on RTF. Watched the whole thing this weekend and really gives me an idea of where i'm at with my 7.5 month old pup.

In his program I am currently working on 3 handed casting and the next step is to add "piles" to the 3 spots.

Happy, do you know of any good areas down here in the Vancouver/North Portland area to train? I've gone over to Sauvie a couple of times but it's time consuming to get over there, and right now the water level is really low. I'll be looking for a swimby pond in the next month or so also.

Thanks

I don't know that area well at all. Sorry. I don't get down south too often.

No worries. Thanks!
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