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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 04:22:09 PM »
 :) I have seen a BUNCH of August bears put into streams for 2-3 days, Just the gutted bear with hide on. Metheany creek has prolly cooled 50-60 bears or a bunch more. The creek over by Bradleys old cabin on West Boundry Road has cooled a bunch also. Ask BTKR or BearmanRick about it.
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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 04:34:05 PM »
i would say dont plan on it this year. imo, i havent found any streams cold enough to give me any confidence. typical years, yes.
i would drop it in to take the initial heat out and make my cooler ice more effective.

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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 05:44:19 PM »
Creeks and contractor bags are great for a quick cool down of meat, I always have the meat in a game bag so the meat doesn't touch plastic, (slimy and some bags can put an off taste in the meat). Always hang the meat at night , that dry outer skein on the meat is what helps to keep the nasty bacteria from ruining your hard earned dinner. The idea with the covered stick bridge over a cool creek is great and works well if you don't have big contractor bags or enough depth to sink the bags in.
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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 09:24:45 PM »
The spike I shot 2 seasons ago on opening morning was quartered on the hill and packed out. Once back at camp we hung it in a tree. On Monday the temps warmed up so we placed the quarters in the creek next to camp. We had sheets wrapped around all the quarters not plastic yes a bit of dirt got in the meat but hardly any. We left the quarters in the creek for about 2 hours to get the temp down on the meat. We used a tarp to block the sun from our game pole then came home Friday and butchered it Saturday and Sunday great tasting meat and hardly any waste no more than normal.

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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2015, 09:44:12 AM »
I forget exactly who told me of this but ultimately it came from a couple old timers that have been killing elk for years and years. These guys would cool their game in the creek until it became a light pink color and they swore that it is the best eating meat ever. It rinses a lot of the blood out of the meat and these guys swore by the way the burger and steaks come out doing it that way. I have never and probably will never try it but whoever it was telling me this did try it and said it was good but not enough to try it or I would probably remember who it was and probably of tried it!

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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2015, 09:55:13 AM »
Super general guidelines for meat in the field:

Below 40 for two weeks
Below 50 for one week
below 65 for three days
this would be good to know,can you give a source from where it came?

From a Dwight Schuh article on meat care:

"Once you get all body heat out of a carcass, air temperature is almost irrelevant. Commercial butchers age beef for up to two weeks at 40 degrees, and they quick-age beef for three days at 65 degrees. Guided by that continuum, I believe if you can cool meat to 65 degrees, you have roughly three days to get it into a cooler. If you can cool the meat to 40 degrees, you have up to two weeks."

The question is how long will it take you to cool it to 65?  Cooling an entire animal to 65 degrees next to the bone (or thickest part of the meat) in a reasonable time (under a day) takes temperatures much cooler than 65.  In August, that pretty much means you need to find a cooler or cold stream pretty quickly.

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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2015, 12:22:12 PM »
I forget exactly who told me of this but ultimately it came from a couple old timers that have been killing elk for years and years. These guys would cool their game in the creek until it became a light pink color and they swore that it is the best eating meat ever. It rinses a lot of the blood out of the meat and these guys swore by the way the burger and steaks come out doing it that way. I have never and probably will never try it but whoever it was telling me this did try it and said it was good but not enough to try it or I would probably remember who it was and probably of tried it!
Me and my dad left half a blackstrap on accident in the stream next to our camp for 2 days while packing a cow out. We came back to continue hunting and ate the back strap when it was light pink like that and we both agreed it was the best meat we've ever had he still talks about it all the time.

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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2015, 12:26:23 PM »
Just shoot your animal the last 10 minutes of your week long hunt, just like on TV, simple.  :tup:
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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2015, 12:30:15 PM »
have always been taught NOT to soak meat in water. Think the concern was introduction of bacteria from the water for one.. However, bagged properly, a cold stream would make a very good cooler. Have placed milk jugs in creeks on trout adventures and even in hot weather, had milk for coffee for a week!

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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2015, 03:36:10 PM »
Due to all the bacteria in water, I would not put my meat directly in the water unless its in a game bag and then a dry sack. I have chilled many Elk this way. Just make sure you get the meat chilled before you call a packer to take it out.
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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2015, 04:24:44 PM »
I usually bone out the meat and get in tag bags to cool down. then place in a plastic bag, then inside a dry bag then place in stream or glacier. the longest I have ever done this before packing out is 5 days and it kept the meat just fine with temps at night in the 40's and days in the 70's
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Re: Keeping meat in streams?
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2015, 04:32:02 PM »
I have not submerged any meat in water to promote cooling, but I have built small timber frameworks over flowing water and placed the meat in game bags just above water level.  The air flow and cooler temperatures help cool the meat.  I've kept elk quarters that way for a couple of days when I've need time to for solo pack outs.  It's important to keep the framework high enough to not get wet or splashed by water but low enough to take advantage of the cooler temps. 
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