Preferred Powder/Cap 4 CVA Optima V2

[SpicyTacos]

Just picked up a CVA Optima V2. Bought some powerbelt rds. and now I'm looking for input for caps and powder. Thanks for your input.

[Rrich2278]

Tag, just ordered the same one from muzzle-loaders.com

[JJ79]

I don't have that model but I have the cva buckhorn. I used musket caps for a little more heat than 11s and used hodgdons 777 in ff for 50 cal.

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[Sabotloader]

I don't have that model but I have the cva buckhorn. I used musket caps for a little more heat than 11s and used hodgdons 777 in ff for 50 cal.

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But TODAY a number 11 Mag Cag cap or a RWS 1075+ cap produce the same heat as does a Musket cap - especially since they have moved back to re-enactment caps.

But with the new Western CVA's I do not think it matters they only come with a Musket cap nipple...

[JJ79]

That's good to know, I was just going off of the older information, of course it's been 4 years or so since I hunted with muzzleloader and my dad had helped me get stuff. I think it had been 20 or so since he hunted with his so based on his knowledge a musket would be hotter. I think with the online versions these days it also helps with it all going forward vs lighting from the side.

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[Sabotloader]

That's good to know, I was just going off of the older information, of course it's been 4 years or so since I hunted with muzzleloader and my dad had helped me get stuff. I think it had been 20 or so since he hunted with his so based on his knowledge a musket would be hotter. I think with the online versions these days it also helps with it all going forward vs lighting from the side.

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In his day the musket cap was definitely hotter than a regular #11 cap - well that is even true today.  But with the advent of the #11 Mag cap that all changed.  There is another cap a RWS 1075+ ( a German cap) that is even slightly hotter.

[CoyoteChuck52]

I like the #11 mag or the 1075..found in my guns the #11 seems to stay on the nipple better then the musket

[JJ79]

I definitely prefer the loose prefer instead of pellets, letting you be more precise with your loads, plus the pellets need a HOT IGNITION source plus leave a residue ring more so than powder I believe

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[CoyoteChuck52]

Blackhorn 209 with a little sprinkle of 3F stacked charge #11 works good here

[MarkyMark]

^^ tell us more about successfully  using blackhorn 209 without a 209 primer cap.


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[CoyoteChuck52]

^^ tell us more about successfully  using blackhorn 209 without a 209 primer cap.


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what you want to know?..works like a charm

[Sabotloader]

^^ tell us more about successfully  using blackhorn 209 without a 209 primer cap.


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Duplexing BH with another BP powder will certainly work - just not quite sure why you would want to take the extra-time to do that especially in a hunting situation.

For range shooting it would be easy enough. When you are loading just drop 5 grains of a BP or a BP sub and then drop the BH on top of that.

 

[MarkyMark]

I have always been under the impression that you needed a 209 primer to ignite the BH, but I guess that is why your using the 3f... Sorry if that was a stupid question.


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[Sabotloader]

I have always been under the impression that you needed a 209 primer to ignite the BH, but I guess that is why your using the 3f... Sorry if that was a stupid question.


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You do need a hot ignition source to ignite BH - and a 209 shotgun primer is widely used.  Percussion caps do not create enough heat.

But if you ignite a pre-charge of BP or any of the regular BP subs - with a cap - the pre-charge will ignite BH to complete the ignition.  Again I am not sure why you would want to go through this process but it does work.

[huntnnw]

Id go with it..I been using BH this year for my muzzy hunt in UT and that stuff is great almost no smoke..you can shoot 50 shots and barrel doesn't change consistency..no corrosion