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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2015, 07:28:43 PM »

If you read older waterfowl books often the authors expected all their readers to crow hunt, if they were serous about duck numbers, this was due to the loss crows cause in waterfowl populations, I know of 0" hard core crow hunters and I have never seen so many crows as in western wA. Perhaps we should all slay more crows...
I'm in...

I never knew or thought crows as a predator to ducks (well their nests). I think I may have to try help population control some. I never tried shooting one because I never really learned the difference between a crow and Raven. I will have to study up on that too. Thanks for the info.


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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2015, 07:33:25 PM »
I heard that hens in general are less because of nesting in grass. Makes them vulnerable especially to racoons which are relatively new to North america
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2015, 09:54:18 PM »
Just read this:
Threats[edit]

Common predators of the greater scaup are owls, skunks, raccoons, foxes, coyotes, and humans.[5] Greater scaup often find themselves entangled in fishing nets, thus large numbers of them drown in nets each year. Greater scaup can catch avian influenza, so future outbreaks have the potential to threaten greater scaup populations.[14]

Although the greater scaup faces numerous threats, the most significant challenge to their survival is habitat degradation caused by a mix of human development and runoff.[27] Greater scaup, when moulting and during the winter, are threatened by escalated levels of organochloride contaminants. Oil and sewage pollution also threaten this duck. Since 80% of the greater scaup population winters in the urbanized part of the Atlantic Flyway, these ducks are subject to high levels of organic contaminates, along with increased levels of heavy metals in foods and habitat.[16]

A joint group of American and Canadian scientists researching scaup migration across the Great Lakes found that 100% of female greater scaup, and 77% of female lesser scaup, had escalated levels of selenium in their bodies. Selenium is an occurring semimetallic trace element that occurs naturally in some soils and minute amounts are necessary for animal life. However excessive selenium can cause reproductive harm and is highly toxic. On their migration across the Great Lakes, greater scaups are at risk of ingesting selenium by eating the invasive zebra mussels, which can render a hen infertile.[3] This sterilization of hens is causing the population to decrease.

In a study of 107 scaup, they all had traces of iron, zinc, manganese, copper, lead, cadmium, cobalt and nickel in their tissue samples with varying concentrations of metals in different types of tissues. Further analysis revealed that the kidneys had the highest levels of cadmium, the liver had the highest levels of copper and manganese, the liver and the stomach had the highest levels of zinc, and the lungs and liver had the highest levels of iron.[28] There was no difference in concentration when comparing genders.

Also, here's the link to all of it. Read similar in a previous study found when I did a Google search.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_scaup
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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2015, 09:59:00 PM »
Wow, the excessive presence of metals in scaup makes me wonder how safe they are to eat?

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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2015, 10:27:04 PM »
Wait... so you mean to tell me there  are other ducks besides mallards?

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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2015, 09:47:28 AM »

Wow, the excessive presence of metals in scaup makes me wonder how safe they are to eat?

The previous studies say yes. But the amount is enough to create problems with egg laying and hatching.


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Re: A modest proposal
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 09:10:29 PM »
Lots of greaters(Blue Bills) showing up lately and I must admit that the drake - hen ratio seems higher. In past years I've always noticed how many drakes were in every bunch that came in. Hopefully that's a good sign and hopefully populations go up and limits follow with an increase.
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