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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2016, 08:37:27 AM »
All gas is the same, it is a commodity.  The big boys like Texaco/Chevron add a bottle of additives to each tanker before it drops it in the stations tank.  In today's cars it really doesn't matter.  Boats, chainsaws, 4wheeler, 92 non ethylol only.   Say no to corn liquor in your toys.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2016, 08:59:46 AM »
worth reading:

Can E15 Gasoline Really Damage Your Engine?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a6244/e15-gasoline-damage-engine/

Since we started draining snowmobile tanks and then running machines until they run out of gas we don't have near as many problems, this article explains why! When I park a vehicle for several months I always add fuel stabilizer.

I have a ~1985 Honda 194 power mower and I run it dry every time I finish using it if I have to use blended gasoline in it.  Before I started this practice and adding Stabil I had carburator problems, since that time none. 

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2016, 09:18:59 AM »
I burn only non-ethanol in all my small engines and boat.  I get it at Cenex in Auburn and only fuel my boat at the marina that is ethanol free.  My truck, I don't really care.  Mostly fuel at Fred Meyer stations for the discount from shopping there.  Paid $1.55 last week.
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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2016, 09:38:41 AM »
I use what's available when I need a fill up. I use what the manufacturer recommends for octane for my toys. My 200 opti max has run flawlessly on 87. I add seafoam at regular intervals. My mud motor runs on 87 as recommended by the manufacturer. No need to spend extra money on higher octane fuel when there will be no realized benefit in performance.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2016, 10:08:55 AM »
Gasoline is bought and sold as a commodity, they all start the same.
Top Tier gasoline providers exceed industry standard.
Here is a list of Top Tier Providers

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline RetailersGasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.Additional gasoline retailers are added to the TOP TIER list as they meet the standards. The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below.TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:
USA
76 Stations
Aloha Petroleum
ARCO
Beacon
BP
Chevron
Cenex
Conoco
Costco Wholesale
CountryMark
Diamond Shamrock
Entec Stations
Express Convenience Centers
Exxon
Hawaii Fueling Network (HFN)
Holiday Stationstores
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
MFA Oil Co.
Mobil
Ohana Fuels
Phillips 66
QuikTrip
Road Ranger
Shamrock
Shell
Sinclair
Suncor Energy Inc
SuperAmerica
Texaco
Tri-Par Oil Co.
Valero

Almost all retailers in the US are Top Tier providers, so no it does not make a difference, unless you prefer one detergent additive over another.

Since moving to Oklahoma, almost all gas stations provide ethanol free gas, I have been able to experiment a bit. Running ethanol free gas in my 2007 Dakota 3.7, I average about 25 more miles per tank, and a slight noticeable difference in performance getting up to speed. In our 2014 Nissan Murano, no noticeable difference in efficiency or performance.

All my 4 stroke engines are Honda's and I use ethanol free. My Zero turn mower I bought new last summer, it will void the warranty if ethanol gas is used.

I paid $1.14 for ethanol free last Sunday.
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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2016, 11:27:14 AM »
Gasoline is bought and sold as a commodity, they all start the same.
Top Tier gasoline providers exceed industry standard.
Here is a list of Top Tier Providers

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/

TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline RetailersGasoline retailers must meet the high TOP TIER standards with all grades of gasoline to be approved by the automakers as providing TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.Additional gasoline retailers are added to the TOP TIER list as they meet the standards. The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below.TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:
USA
76 Stations
Aloha Petroleum
ARCO
Beacon
BP
Chevron
Cenex
Conoco
Costco Wholesale
CountryMark
Diamond Shamrock
Entec Stations
Express Convenience Centers
Exxon
Hawaii Fueling Network (HFN)
Holiday Stationstores
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
MFA Oil Co.
Mobil
Ohana Fuels
Phillips 66
QuikTrip
Road Ranger
Shamrock
Shell
Sinclair
Suncor Energy Inc
SuperAmerica
Texaco
Tri-Par Oil Co.
Valero

Almost all retailers in the US are Top Tier providers, so no it does not make a difference, unless you prefer one detergent additive over another.

Since moving to Oklahoma, almost all gas stations provide ethanol free gas, I have been able to experiment a bit. Running ethanol free gas in my 2007 Dakota 3.7, I average about 25 more miles per tank, and a slight noticeable difference in performance getting up to speed. In our 2014 Nissan Murano, no noticeable difference in efficiency or performance.

All my 4 stroke engines are Honda's and I use ethanol free. My Zero turn mower I bought new last summer, it will void the warranty if ethanol gas is used.

I paid $1.14 for ethanol free last Sunday.

 :yeah:

I have friends who use ARCO gasoline, I have not tried it in ~ a decade and the last time I used it my puckup had no power and got terrible mileage and the engine knocked like it was falling apart.  Nothing had changed since my father and mother refused to buy Richfield back in the 1960's because we always had high performance automobiles (Tornados and 390 tri power & 406 Galaxie 500s) and  Richfield gasoline was no bueno back then.
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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2016, 11:36:24 AM »
I burn only non-ethanol in all my small engines and boat.  I get it at Cenex in Auburn and only fuel my boat at the marina that is ethanol free.  My truck, I don't really care.  Mostly fuel at Fred Meyer stations for the discount from shopping there.  Paid $1.55 last week.
:yeah:

I like to use Cenex as well.  I make a trip every once in a while down to Chehalis to Cenex and fill up 15 to 20 gallons of non-ethanol gas to use in my small engines.  My vehicles I fill up at Costco.
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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2016, 12:25:24 PM »
I manage a Shell Station. But on the road I will fuel at the busiest store I can find. Why? Because a lot of problems are caused by water in gas. A out of the way store with low volume may only buy a load of gas a month. The longer it sits the more things that can happen to it.

A busy store like the one I manage buy two double tankers of fuel every day. Fresh gas is best gas.

Gas is all the same like some one posted, except each brand adds additives.

Ethanol is considered hard on small engines and old classic car owners try to stay clear of it, I find.

But I have had muscle car owners tell me they get the best mileage on Shell Premium.

I would never fill up at any location that was receiving a load of fuel at the time. 99% of time no problem but that fuel is stirring up sediment in underground tanks as it fills. Filters and other devices are in place but on out of the way places may not be well maintained . Big stores have their tanks checked and cleaned if needed from time to time.

I have owned two Nissan Frontiers in 21 years both of them were fed Shell Regular. Never had a gas related problem. Once in Twisp I filled up and had a issue. Can of gas dry took care of it.  :twocents:

Aside from busy filling stations what other things should we look for? Is there a way to tell if the filters are changed regularly?

For the customer, No
I would pick stores that are well maintained and clean inside and out. Those owners are likely keeping up with maintenance inside and out.
For us our filters are made to detect water and will slow the pump way down if they are near end of life.  We change filters on pumps every three months or sooner if needed.
We also have modern electronic tanking monitoring for water and require every load from refinery to be stick-ed for water.
They use water to clean tanks at the refinery.
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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2016, 12:39:53 PM »
There are some stations to avoid In Selah. .  They are .50 a gallon higher than the rest of the local talent.    They are Palestine folks that are gouging folks that don't know better.  One in Terrace heights too.   Same chain.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2016, 01:09:04 PM »
Maybe i'm in the minority here  :dunno: But a deciding factor for me is the people that run the stores, if they have towels on there heads then I pass it up and go else where for two reasons.
#1 They don't keep up on the maintance of the station or their tanks (I work for a company who installs and does maintance for fuel stations).
#2 I genuinley don't care for them!

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2016, 01:23:31 PM »
I mostly buy my gasoline and propane at Skagit Farmer's Supply (Cenex) due to receiving an annual member co-op patronage refund.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2016, 01:27:17 PM »
Years ago my brother worked at a gas station/car wash. The owner switched from BP to Chevron. After the change their gas was delivered by the same guy driving the same truck as before the chang.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2016, 08:35:28 PM »
Chevron and Texaco are the best.  Tech Ron Is a good additive.  The rest are the same ...... as ghost Hunt er said  pick a clean busy station.  Carburetored engines will benefit from no ethanol fuel if you want to  chase the ghost.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2016, 11:05:58 PM »

Ethanol is very bad on small engines! I have a friend with a shop, he has a box full of parts. Chainsaw, lawnmower, motorcycle, etc. All burned up from ethanol. He also. Works on boats and autos. He has everything from fittings, to gas tanks, etc. all aluminum. Says the ethanol eats any fitting or part made of aluminum. We had a boat and made the mistake of filling up the tanks with ethanol gas. Within a year it ate through two 110 gal tanks of fuel. Ate right through the bottom. I will use nothing but Cenex.

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Re: Which gasoline?
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2016, 07:57:42 PM »
I remember a couple of immature and stupid teenagers who wanted to go cruising the Renton loop in a 63 Impala SS, 409 duel quads and a 4sp, but did not have gas money. They decided to siphon some gas from some neiborhood cars. No one noticed the last car was a Pugeot, or that the gas tasted oily.
What a smoke screen it out out!
It also took four more siphon trips to clean that 409 back to normal.
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