Baiting Restrictions

[h20hunter]

Coue of long armed dinks right there!   

We need a "fist bump" aka handshake emoticon....

[Wacenturion]

And I do apologize to all the hunters that Ive a fended on this site.
I also get a little defensive when hunting the wilderness is compared to
sitting in a heated blind waiting for the automatic feeder to drop the corn.
But as hunters no matter How, Where or What we must all stick together, I
forgot that for a few minutes.Good luck on all your hunting adventures!!!
WPO

Don't let them separate and divide us,we are stronger as one!     

Wow....if you're going to apologize for all you opinionated remarks directed at pretty much everyone here, then do so and leave out the follow up toned down opinionated remarks following the apology.

[Buckmark]

I do hope baiting never gets put to a popular vote, but feel it may...

As far as my kill%, i am at 100% as everything i have killed, i killed...

[White Pass Outfitters]

So Wacenturion maybe you can explain to me why, what the two Native Americans did at oak creek feed station was ok. The killed two large bulls while eating hay. I believe that would be considered hunting over bait. And the public and hunters outcry over it made the news. I just don't see much of a difference. To each his own I guess, but in my opinion fair chase is the only way to hunt.So as far as my apology goes, I do apologies for a fending anyone,but I dont for giving my opinion on this thread.
I dont and wont hunt over bait.
wpo     
   

[KFhunter]

Right now if you do a Google search for "White Pass outfitters" a HW thread is #2 for the search engine result (it's a positive thread that continues to help your business).   

Do you really want this thread to replace that one as the #2 search result?  It's up to you.

[White Pass Outfitters]

Ok ,you guys win I will no longer give my opinion on any thread, because if its not what everyone wants to here they just bet you up over it.I do stand by fair chase wilderness hunts in my opinion its the most rewarding way to hunt. But to each his own kfhunter.
Thanks for all the positive people in this world
Good Bye Hunt Wa
WPO

[KFhunter]

I didn't offer an opinion, merely informing you of the repercussions of your actions.  Already this thread had made the 1st page of your Google search, and under the HW results it's the #1 thread.  HW is neither for nor against you, it's a tool of public opinion that can greatly benefit your business....or the reverse.

[h20hunter]

Your opinion about them being the most rewarding is the best way you have made your point. Saying that is the only way to be a true hunter is the worst way.

[emac]

WPO. Here is my perspective on this. I got drawn for a bull tag in your area last year and I really thought about using you but I didn't have the funds to do so. I went at it on a diy hunt never stepping foot in the unit. But me and my buddy hiked our tails off and I got a decent 6x5 opening morning. It was rewarding as any hunt I have been on. But before that I had moved back to my home town and got a new job. Didn't have time to scout for my elk hunt. I had never baited before but I gave it try last summer/fall. And if anyone says baiting is easy or a slam dunk they are completely wrong. I had 11 trail cams out and only 3 of them you could drive to. The rest I was hauling 50-75lbs of grain to on my back. I had a monster 4x4 with eyeguuards coming in on a regular basis in the afternoon on one of my cams. I sat in a ground blind on that cam almost every afternoon during all of archery season and never laid eyes on the big guy. So it's not like shooting fish in a barrel like everyone thinks. It takes alot of time and a lot of effort. I could of shoot some lesser bucks but passed. So I think baiting has it perks. I didn't get the buck I wanted but I passed on alot of lesser bucks with good genetics to pass on to future generations. If I hadn't of been baiting I might off shot one of the lesser bucks.

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[huntingfool7]

Your opinion about them being the most rewarding is the best way you have made your point. Saying that is the only way to be a true hunter is the worst way.

On point and well said!

[Wacenturion]

So Wacenturion maybe you can explain to me why, what the two Native Americans did at oak creek feed station was ok. The killed two large bulls while eating hay. I believe that would be considered hunting over bait. And the public and hunters outcry over it made the news. I just don't see much of a difference. To each his own I guess, but in my opinion fair chase is the only way to hunt.So as far as my apology goes, I do apologies for a fending anyone,but I dont for giving my opinion on this thread.
I dont and wont hunt over bait.
wpo     
 

Was going to respond but what's the point......

[dreamingbig]

Okay, so if you all feel baiting is ok,why was there such a public outcry when 2 native Americans went to oak creek feed station (bait station) and killed two bulls while they were eating hay. I really dont see much of a difference or can you explain the difference to me.
FAIR CHASE WILDERNESS HUNTS ONLY FOR THE REAL HUNTER !!!

Serious?  Can't be but I will play....


Because the Indians aren't paying for the hay that feed the elk! And those that do pay for it can't hunt them on the winter range nor would we.

[JDHasty]

WPO. Here is my perspective on this. I got drawn for a bull tag in your area last year and I really thought about using you but I didn't have the funds to do so. I went at it on a diy hunt never stepping foot in the unit. But me and my buddy hiked our tails off and I got a decent 6x5 opening morning. It was rewarding as any hunt I have been on. But before that I had moved back to my home town and got a new job. Didn't have time to scout for my elk hunt. I had never baited before but I gave it try last summer/fall. And if anyone says baiting is easy or a slam dunk they are completely wrong. I had 11 trail cams out and only 3 of them you could drive to. The rest I was hauling 50-75lbs of grain to on my back. I had a monster 4x4 with eyeguuards coming in on a regular basis in the afternoon on one of my cams. I sat in a ground blind on that cam almost every afternoon during all of archery season and never laid eyes on the big guy. So it's not like shooting fish in a barrel like everyone thinks. It takes alot of time and a lot of effort. I could of shoot some lesser bucks but passed. So I think baiting has it perks. I didn't get the buck I wanted but I passed on alot of lesser bucks with good genetics to pass on to future generations. If I hadn't of been baiting I might off shot one of the lesser bucks.

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There ya' go.  Actually the network of guys that are after bigger BTs I associate with is fairly decent in size and some do bait and work harder at it than I do to get my stands up and scout and get my stands set up and do that with kids in tow.  Some of them have their kids along too.  Again, let me reiterate, everybody's s success rate is about the same as mine and the guys who still hunt, and most of ours is less than the few guys who stay out all season doing what we do on weekends and a few days off thrown in here and there.  But almost all of those of them who bait, or set stands on travel routs and feed areas and still hunt and stay out all season settle for less near the end every once in every few years.

Bait isn't the difference and it is most definitely not the easiest way to success, it is what they prefer and think gives them an advantage.  I think my way is best for me, but would bait if I thought it would make much difference in my success.  I do still hunt some, but just out of habit I guess.   

 

[257 Wby Mag]

Ok ,you guys win I will no longer give my opinion on any thread, because if its not what everyone wants to here they just bet you up over it.I do stand by fair chase wilderness hunts in my opinion its the most rewarding way to hunt. But to each his own kfhunter.
Thanks for all the positive people in this world
Good Bye Hunt Wa
WPO

I agree , can't wait to meet you and use your services when my boy and I draw one of your units.later

[White Pass Outfitters]

Ok guys I know I said no more comments, but I have to put one more out there. First and most important I am a meat hunter not a trophy hunter. And I would never vote against any means of hunting. Just because I dont do it doesnt mean I appose it, just means Ive never done it. I have hunted the wilderness since I was 5 yrs. old, its really the only way I know how to hunt. I never hunt the feeding or bedding grounds, Just so I dont get my scent there.
 I hunt what I call the in betweens, I hunt where the Elk are moving from feeding grounds to there bedding grounds. I hunt Deer above tree lines, spot and stalk. So I guess I really cant comment on baiting, I do think some of the tv shows are giving hunters a bad reputation. (just my opinion) And as far as my motto I never new so many people would be a fended by it. But it is just a way to promote  fair chase wilderness hunts. So maybe I will word it a little different. Like fair chase wilderness, the most rewarding hunts out there, or maybe you guys can come up with a better one. I am a strong believer of fair chase hunts and always will be. I do hope everyone does get the chance to hunt the wilderness at least once in there hunting adventures. That's why I've  been working so hard on promoting wilderness hunts. In my opinion if we dont it just gives the Feds a chance to take it away from us and I guess thats no different than them trying to take away baiting. So as hunters and outdoors men, we all need to stick together and not let the state or feds take any more hunting rights away from us.
So again I do apologize to all the hunters that I have a fended for my comments on baiting. I have no right to condemn something I have never done.
And thank you Dreamingbig for your comment, I do agree with you I just wanted someone else to come out and say it besides me. And to 257 wby mag looking forward to meeting you also. And just to let you know I give children a 50% of all my wilderness hunts. I feel we need to teach our kids how to hunt and survive  in the back country. On that note I have rambled on long enough. So no matter How,Where or what your hunting good luck and dont hesitate to promote it.
Thanks to all the positive people in this world.
White Pass Outfitters