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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1605 on: August 10, 2016, 09:48:52 AM »
I saw he has court set for September now
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1607 on: August 13, 2016, 03:19:29 PM »
"The state has charged the key witness in Reichert’s defense, David Perkins, with second-degree aiding and abetting, or as a principal, to unlawful hunting. Perkins was Reichert’s disabled hunting companion."

LOL, looks like some past posters to this thread, were not being very truthful.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1608 on: August 13, 2016, 04:20:41 PM »
"The state has charged the key witness in Reichert’s defense, David Perkins, with second-degree aiding and abetting, or as a principal, to unlawful hunting. Perkins was Reichert’s disabled hunting companion."

LOL, looks like some past posters to this thread, were not being very truthful.
Can you (the state) charge a "companion hunter" for aiding?  Are they acting as one under the WAC 232-12 definition? If he made the call to the WDFW on behalf of TR is it a strategic move by the prosecutor? I'll be curious to see the employee deposition as to how the situation played out.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1609 on: August 13, 2016, 04:53:16 PM »
Depends on which story that we have been told you want to believe?
We were told he was not his guide. But this article states he was his disabled hunting companion. What does that mean, legally?
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1610 on: August 13, 2016, 05:00:21 PM »
Depends on which story that we have been told you want to believe?
We were told he was not his guide. But this article states he was his disabled hunting companion. What does that mean, legally?
It means he can legally assist him, including shooting for him.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-828
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1611 on: August 13, 2016, 05:39:31 PM »
So then whose tag went on the elk, wouldn't it have to be the disabled gentleman 's tag and not TR's tag. Based on the WAC he was taking it for the other hunters tag.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1612 on: August 13, 2016, 05:47:53 PM »
So then whose tag went on the elk, wouldn't it have to be the disabled gentleman 's tag and not TR's tag. Based on the WAC he was taking it for the other hunters tag.

TR is the disabled gentleman.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1613 on: August 13, 2016, 06:11:46 PM »
Thank you for the clarification, the person pulling the trigger should still be responsible for knowing the law. Also his defense sucks, he is a longtime Wa resident. I'm from Illinois and I understand the regs even before this issue came up. Hard to say there is no clarification when it's on the web and hard copy regs. Also seems he gets around fine, he hunts all over the country with gov/raffle tag,  what was the purpose of the companion.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1614 on: August 13, 2016, 06:39:16 PM »
So then whose tag went on the elk, wouldn't it have to be the disabled gentleman 's tag and not TR's tag. Based on the WAC he was taking it for the other hunters tag.
Reichert had the tag. if Perkins were his legally designed companion, he could within certain guidelines shoot an animal for Reichert. Reichert's tag would go on the animal.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1616 on: August 14, 2016, 08:19:32 AM »
So then whose tag went on the elk, wouldn't it have to be the disabled gentleman 's tag and not TR's tag. Based on the WAC he was taking it for the other hunters tag.
Reichert had the tag. if Perkins were his legally designed companion, he could within certain guidelines shoot an animal for Reichert. Reichert's tag would go on the animal.
So to what extent are they acting as one and the same under said guidelines? Did the commission have the intent of companions, under certain guidelines, act for and as the "hunter"? Will Grants statement support Perkins?

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1617 on: August 14, 2016, 08:23:58 AM »
So then whose tag went on the elk, wouldn't it have to be the disabled gentleman 's tag and not TR's tag. Based on the WAC he was taking it for the other hunters tag.
Reichert had the tag. if Perkins were his legally designed companion, he could within certain guidelines shoot an animal for Reichert. Reichert's tag would go on the animal.
So to what extent are they acting as one and the same under said guidelines? Did the commission have the intent of companions, under certain guidelines, act for and as the "hunter"? Will Grants statement support Perkins?
The companion can do what the WAC allows:

"Designated hunter companion" means a person who assists or acts on behalf of a hunter with a disability in the stalking, shooting, tracking, retrieving, or tagging of game birds and game animals.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #1618 on: August 16, 2016, 01:50:47 PM »
So then whose tag went on the elk, wouldn't it have to be the disabled gentleman 's tag and not TR's tag. Based on the WAC he was taking it for the other hunters tag.

TR is the disabled gentleman.

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