Weyerhaeuser Permits?

[Sportsman]

Sorry if this has been asked before.  I sort of lost my old hunting area, this year I am starting to think about getting one of those Weyerhaeuser Permits?  Does anyone have any experience with trying that and how did it work out for you? 

[Encore 280]

No problem getting one if you want to pay the $250 + to get into an area.

[bobcat]

Are you wanting to hunt deer, or elk? Or both? I think it's a fair deal if you are planning to hunt both deer and elk, and especially if you have kids under the age of 18 who will be hunting as well. I think all areas are allowing camping this year too, so that's a nice bonus. Maybe not Aberdeen though, not sure on that one.

A couple things I really dislike-

1) The timing of their permit sales. They go on sale, and sell out, just after the WDFW special permit application deadline, but before the results of the draw are available. It makes it really hard for people to plan, and to know if they actually want to buy a Weyerhaeuser permit or not.
2) Another problem is most areas sell out in just minutes, and that means there is a very good possibility of one person successfully purchasing a permit, and your hunting partner not getting one. And the fact that they don't allow a person with a permit to bring along a guest, means a lot of people may end up with permits and will have to hunt alone.

[Sportsman]

I was completely unaware that they sold permits (must have been living in a cave) until just a few days ago.  Heard about the permits from a friend of a friend. 

I was looking at the North Cascades / Chelan permit.  Does anyone know anything about it?    $200, it is for almost a full year of access, so that seems good, you can hunt, fish or camp.  What I don't understand is the area I was looking at has multiple sites in a couple of counties.  Does that mean I would have access to all of those sites?  That might be pretty good.  Mulies up by Lake Whenatchie and Black Tail over here close to home.  I don't get a chance to do much elk hunting. But bear, deer, grouse  all sound good to me.  I don't really like paying for access, but I am real tired of DNR property and the way it is managed.

[teegansdad]

Just a thought, last year I was hunting in a permit area alone as the permit states. Well it was early archery and I fell 15 feet to the creek bottom and broke my now string. I sat there for minutes assessing my body to make sure I was not broken. I managed to make it out the four miles back to my rig. This t
Got me to thinking. There (Weyerhaeuser) unwillingness to allow one partner other than your spouse or child really seems to put us at risk if and when someone becomes injured.

[Magnum_Willys]

Year-round camping and hunting when allowed on 381,000 acres of private timberland for $300 per family.   Not too shabby.

[Eli346]

You will have access to all those units. Vail and PeEll have sold out already.

[headshot5]

Just a thought, last year I was hunting in a permit area alone as the permit states. Well it was early archery and I fell 15 feet to the creek bottom and broke my now string. I sat there for minutes assessing my body to make sure I was not broken. I managed to make it out the four miles back to my rig. This t
Got me to thinking. There (Weyerhaeuser) unwillingness to allow one partner other than your spouse or child really seems to put us at risk if and when someone becomes injured.

It's not really their job to babysit you.   Get a Spot or something similar, or find a hunting partner who also has a permit.  Definitely not trying to be a jerk.  At some point when you are out in the woods, you have responsibility for your health, so have a plan ahead of time.   

[Smokeploe]

What is the difference between WILDWATER PARK and Weyerhaeuser the both sell tickets into their properties? If you slip and fall on a patch of slick concrete you sue the s**t out is WILDWATER park, why not Weyerhaeuser?  They stated in an article, which I could not find, that they are making more money selling permits than lumber.
Why are they still getting tax breaks for "keep their land open to the public". Shouldn't they tax as a resort or a for profit park?

[teegansdad]

You guys are all missing my point. I'm not sue happy. I'm not above being responsible for my actions or poorly planned excursion. I am merely suggesting it would be nice if we could name one hunting partner other than a wife or child to take in. Finding a permit holder or getting a hunting partner to buy is not always practical. I pay to play because its a good deal all that wood and property access for one year. I'm good with it. Just wish the stated above was an option. Ya dig!!!!

[Skyvalhunter]

Don't be mislead with your "all that wood' comment as it is very limited areas and well picked over.

[seth30]

I miss the old timber companies that let you enter at your own risk and didn't charge you a dime

[bobcat]

You guys are all missing my point. I'm not sue happy. I'm not above being responsible for my actions or poorly planned excursion. I am merely suggesting it would be nice if we could name one hunting partner other than a wife or child to take in. Finding a permit holder or getting a hunting partner to buy is not always practical. I pay to play because its a good deal all that wood and property access for one year. I'm good with it. Just wish the stated above was an option. Ya dig!!!!

I agree.

[Firefightermmm]

Ive hunted Weyerhauser land for the last four years and have finally said no thanks to the permit fees this year.  Once they opened up the roads every single road hunter and there brother are in areas my buddy and I use to Hike into.   You also aren't allowed to camp on Weyerhauser land, unless it changed this year.  Good luck with a new area but I found that the Weyerhauser permits weren't worth it, Just my opinion.

[bobcat]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

[kentrek]

They stated in an article, which I could not find, that they are making more money selling permits than lumber.

This is absurd....

[brush hunter]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

[JimmyHoffa]

They stated in an article, which I could not find, that they are making more money selling permits than lumber.

This is absurd....

I guess it could be the case, does seem hard to figure though.  If you assume they are on a 50 yr rotation then only 2% of their harvestable acreage (on average) gets cut each year; and 2% of harvestable acreage for commercial thin.  Might get a little bit of income off the hog fuel chips.  But lots of expense for the timber part of the operation--logging crews, foresters, road building, security, etc.  Hunting permits are access to all the acreage every year (maybe not in active cutting, but do get the stream buffers).  What expenses are with hunting?  Maybe a tiny amount of road repair, a couple extra hours for security during the main seasons, mailing out permits and keys, replace an occasional lock, little bump in insurance. 

[fireweed]

They stated in an article, which I could not find, that they are making more money selling permits than lumber.

This is absurd....

...except for places in the south....for now.

[Alan K]

They bring in more NET dollars on a single harvest unit than they GROSS off of permits on most of the farms. . . Take Vail below. . .

800 permits x $300 each = $240,000 GROSS

50 acre unit x 25 mbf/ac x $300/mbf stumpage (NET) = $375,000


Sure, a bigger farm that sells more permits such as Longview it might take a few units. . .

3500 permits x $300 each = $1,050,000

$1,050,000 / $300/mbf stumpage / 25 mbf/acre = 140 acres of harvest


It is, as kentrek said, absurd.  It's not even close.

[bobcat]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

But camping is allowed.

[grundy53]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

Actually, you can drive an hour and a half before day light and an hour and a half after dark.

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[brush hunter]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

Actually, you can drive an hour and a half before day light and an hour and a half after dark.

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that's new this year I believe. I also see where you can't have side by sides, ORV's ATV's,  snowmobiles  On a trailer or a truck. so I guess you pay more for less

[bobcat]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

Actually, you can drive an hour and a half before day light and an hour and a half after dark.

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that's new this year I believe. I also see where you can't have side by sides, ORV's ATV's,  snowmobiles  On a trailer or a truck. so I guess you pay more for less

When have ATV's ever been allowed on Weyerhaeuser land?

[chester]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

Actually, you can drive an hour and a half before day light and an hour and a half after dark.

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that's new this year I believe. I also see where you can't have side by sides, ORV's ATV's,  snowmobiles  On a trailer or a truck. so I guess you pay more for less

The drive times have been the same since they started permit access. Nothing new and no on motorcycles, atvs and side by sides. Not even in a truck bed. The rules haven't changed.


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[grundy53]

Camping is now allowed on most, if not all, of the Weyerhaeuser permit areas.

Target shooting and driving before daylight and after it gets dark at night is prohibit too

Actually, you can drive an hour and a half before day light and an hour and a half after dark.

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that's new this year I believe. I also see where you can't have side by sides, ORV's ATV's,  snowmobiles  On a trailer or a truck. so I guess you pay more for less

The drive times have been the same since they started permit access. Nothing new and no on motorcycles, atvs and side by sides. Not even in a truck bed. The rules haven't changed.


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[Venicius]

So, if an area needs a permit will that be on signage at the gate or will the gate be locked to those who don't have a permit?

[PolarBear]

Weyco permits suck!!!  The deer and elk hunting is horrible and it is way overcrowded on the weekends. I suggest that everyone keep their $$$$ and hunt the bountiful Capitol Forrest. 

[konradcountry]

Weyco permits suck!!!  The deer and elk hunting is horrible and it is way overcrowded on the weekends. I suggest that everyone keep their $$$$ and hunt the bountiful Capitol Forest.

Capitol Forest is not the place to go if you want to avoid crowds.

I was there today and the place sounded like a warzone.

[PolarBear]

I was being facetious.

[Lefthook]

I miss the old timber companies that let you enter at your own risk and didn't charge you a dime

Damn I'm old! I remember not even thinking about paying to enter any land I hunted. After hunting half a day or so I would run into a crew all set up up and in the process of clear cutting a large valley. The guys were cool and would let me hang out and watch them do their thing. When they took a short break, I'd walk right up to a group of about half a dozen guys and ask questions about how the set up all the cables criss crossing this huge valley, the tactics they used on dropping timber so it was lined up for an easy pick to be hauled to the top of the landing.

After conversing for 15 to 20 minutes, some of the guys would offer up where they would run into game on their way in and out to the cut. It was a very different time back then. People, hunters, forest workers, loggers, truck drivers were just laid back and enjoying life. The loggers were happy to see a hunter tag something. Good times.

Lefthook

[brush hunter]

I remember those days too , Only going to get worse.