WDFW Multi Season Elk Error

[mfswallace]

Perspective---2years is what we're actually talking about not 2points

[Oh Mah]

Seems the states mistake has put them in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.  Hard to blame them for trying to give a positive solution to those small few who truly wound up effected.

The state accidently sends out an elk letter to a successful multi-season deer recipient and there is outrage for them giving a couple points to those who were effected!  Yet no-one seems to care when hunters apply for the multi-season tags knowing full well they are not going to purchase once drawn.  Sounds to me like the consensus is that intent to screw others = good - mistake and consolatory points = bad.  I'm sorry, but I don't get it.

The basis of the letter is that approximately 100 successful multi-season deer hunters may have accidently received a letter stating they were successful in the multi-season elk instead of the letter saying they drew multi-season deer.  Not everyone who received the May 11 letter did indeed receive the wrong April success letter.  That is the reason for needing to send in the April letter as proof to get the points.  So the state is not putting 200 points into the system.  They are only putting two points into the system for those who received the wrong letter.  Sounds to me like most posting on here received the correct April letters.  So it appears as though there will be very few points given away.

This should minimally effect next years draw.  Will most definitely effect the draw far less than those who knowingly set out to screw their fellow hunters by applying for multi-season tags they have no intention of purchasing.  Having outrage for one and not the other seems a fools errand to me.  And for those who felt the need to call the state when they were in no way effected...what was the point?

The part in here where you say hunters knowingly apply with no intention on buying the tag,Who are you talking about?I don't recall anyone saying they put in for multi-season (spending the money and the time)to screw other hunters out of a tag.This is not a true statement.People only said that they would not buy the tag if they draw or don't draw something else,That is totally different than not having any intention of buying it when they put in for it.  That's the same as people saying that new hunters shouldn't put in for quality bull because it hurts the odds of the people that have been putting in for 20 years.

[grundy53]

Seems the states mistake has put them in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.  Hard to blame them for trying to give a positive solution to those small few who truly wound up effected.

The state accidently sends out an elk letter to a successful multi-season deer recipient and there is outrage for them giving a couple points to those who were effected!  Yet no-one seems to care when hunters apply for the multi-season tags knowing full well they are not going to purchase once drawn.  Sounds to me like the consensus is that intent to screw others = good - mistake and consolatory points = bad.  I'm sorry, but I don't get it.

The basis of the letter is that approximately 100 successful multi-season deer hunters may have accidently received a letter stating they were successful in the multi-season elk instead of the letter saying they drew multi-season deer.  Not everyone who received the May 11 letter did indeed receive the wrong April success letter.  That is the reason for needing to send in the April letter as proof to get the points.  So the state is not putting 200 points into the system.  They are only putting two points into the system for those who received the wrong letter.  Sounds to me like most posting on here received the correct April letters.  So it appears as though there will be very few points given away.

This should minimally effect next years draw.  Will most definitely effect the draw far less than those who knowingly set out to screw their fellow hunters by applying for multi-season tags they have no intention of purchasing.  Having outrage for one and not the other seems a fools errand to me.  And for those who felt the need to call the state when they were in no way effected...what was the point?

The part in here where you say hunters knowingly apply with no intention on buying the tag,Who are you talking about?I don't recall anyone saying they put in for multi-season (spending the money and the time)to screw other hunters out of a tag.This is not a true statement.People only said that they would not buy the tag if they draw or don't draw something else,That is totally different than not having any intention of buying it when they put in for it.  That's the same as people saying that new hunters shouldn't put in for quality bull because it hurts the odds of the people that have been putting in for 20 years.

Actually, in the past there have been people who openly state they put in for it with no intention to purchase the tag. They think they are sticking it to the state.

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[Oh Mah]

Wow,Real hunters?  I bought mine right after i got the mistake letter in the mail,Don't want to lose it over any other mistakes lol.(deer that is) Did not get drawn elk no mistake for me with elk.

[Igor]

Erase your posts and keep the tags. That's as bad as being told you won Miss Universe and then told you really didn't. Probably worse.

Yeah, I got the letter saying I really didn't win the Miss Universe....................I'm SO confused !!

[NOCK NOCK]

Erase your posts and keep the tags. That's as bad as being told you won Miss Universe and then told you really didn't. Probably worse.

Yeah, I got the letter saying I really didn't win the Miss Universe....................I'm SO confused !!

That's cause your peeing in the wrong bathroom 

 

[WAnoob]

I got one of these letters last night even though it  does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. 

[pianoman9701]

I got one of these letters last night even though it  does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. 

If you feel that way about the people in this forum, maybe it's not the right place for you. And I'm unsure about why you would get this same letter "though it does not affect me"? Did you put in for the tag with no intention of purchasing one? Regardless, I completely understand the disappointment of not only getting the MS tag, but then spending points applying for permits only to find you may get chosen for the special hunts but won't be able to because the MS was taken away. It's winning a lottery and then being told you can't have the prize. And "They could have told you to shove it" is up for legal interpretation. Their announcement of the chosen "winners" and the winners' consequent purchases based on that notification may be interpreted by some as a contract with consideration. The 2 points may not be enough for them to buy their way out of this contract. This will quite possibly be tested in our state's court system. It certainly should be.

[tonymiller7]

I got the letter too, but was not selected online and never received the congratulations letter, so no 2 extra points for me.   

[b0bbyg]

I got one of these letters last night even though it  does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. 

If you feel that way about the people in this forum, maybe it's not the right place for you. And I'm unsure about why you would get this same letter "though it does not affect me"? Did you put in for the tag with no intention of purchasing one? Regardless, I completely understand the disappointment of not only getting the MS tag, but then spending points applying for permits only to find you may get chosen for the special hunts but won't be able to because the MS was taken away. It's winning a lottery and then being told you can't have the prize. And "They could have told you to shove it" is up for legal interpretation. Their announcement of the chosen "winners" and the winners' consequent purchases based on that notification may be interpreted by some as a contract with consideration. The 2 points may not be enough for them to buy their way out of this contract. This will quite possibly be tested in our state's court system. It certainly should be.

I was the same as noob.  I did not get the tag based on the data online, also did not get a letter saying I was chosen.  I did get the apology letter.

[asl20bball]

2 free points to approx. 100 people = harder odds to draw for the rest of us folk.    Sucks if you did get the initial letter and made plans though.

[SteelheadTed]

If they got the letter but were not drawn they wont be able to purchase the tag?They are out nothing and should be awarded no points.If they planned their hunts around a letter without the tag in hand they are fools. 

That is a bit extreme.  If they got a letter letting them know they won it is quite reasonable that they would make plans based on that letter.  Why should they disbelieve a letter sent to them by WDFW? 

[WAnoob]

I got one of these letters last night even though it  does not affect me. First thing that came to my mind was how much ranting there would be on the forum. It sucks it happened to people in the first place but at least they acknowledged and rectified their mistakes with 2 points. They could have told you to shove it. 

If you feel that way about the people in this forum, maybe it's not the right place for you. And I'm unsure about why you would get this same letter "though it does not affect me"? Did you put in for the tag with no intention of purchasing one? Regardless, I completely understand the disappointment of not only getting the MS tag, but then spending points applying for permits only to find you may get chosen for the special hunts but won't be able to because the MS was taken away. It's winning a lottery and then being told you can't have the prize. And "They could have told you to shove it" is up for legal interpretation. Their announcement of the chosen "winners" and the winners' consequent purchases based on that notification may be interpreted by some as a contract with consideration. The 2 points may not be enough for them to buy their way out of this contract. This will quite possibly be tested in our state's court system. It certainly should be.

I got a letter stating I MAY have been part of the error, didn't say I had an error and was falsely awarded. Let's face it every forum has its whiners, if it bugged me that bad I wouldn't be on any of them. Mistakes happen in all lines of customer service including government agencies. Sure it sucks my question is what are you going to do about it? 99.99% of the people on this thread will just complain that someone pissed in their cheerio's for a couple of weeks then it will be old news.

Granted my jab may have been too soon..I do feel bad for the falsely awarded people but who are you to say I applied for a permit without the intention of purchasing it? I put in for both deer and elk and got drawn for multi-deer.

[Oh Mah]

If they got the letter but were not drawn they wont be able to purchase the tag?They are out nothing and should be awarded no points.If they planned their hunts around a letter without the tag in hand they are fools. 

That is a bit extreme.  If they got a letter letting them know they won it is quite reasonable that they would make plans based on that letter.  Why should they disbelieve a letter sent to them by WDFW?

I don't think what i said was extreme at all.You and i both know long before this mistake came out whether we drew or not,Knowing that online it said not selected then a letter weeks later saying you drew.How excited should you be and how far would you plan a trip before trying to purchase the tag?Me and most i would say is not far maybe the closest dealer then all plans stop.To many people in the world try to capitalize on mistakes made by others. 

[jvt]

I got drawn for multi deer season and I bought the deer tag on line and it wasn't sent.
is the screw up only for elk?