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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2016, 09:10:17 AM »
My point is that if the rig is mostly a commuter and light tow rig a gasser auto is plenty. If your gona buck up and get a diesel you should do so because your going to do a bunch of hauling. If you do a bunch of hauling a stick behind that Cummins is much better than a $4k wear part. Clutches are cheap.

It sounds like a gasser auto is the best investment for the OP.  I don't have ANY experience with those other than my brother in laws F150s he has had on the farm that took a beating.
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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2016, 09:16:26 AM »
Josh,  do you see a large amount of sensor related issues with the newer Dodge trucks?

I'm a Ford guy now but still have pretty regular communication with our Dodge store.  I am mostly out of the Mopar loop for the last ~3 years.
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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2016, 09:41:01 AM »
3 of my brothers have dodges, one has had gassers and both have been complete garbage. 2 others have 6.7s one a 2013 that has spent more time in the shop then he has actually driven it. (emissions garbage!) I just purchased a 07 Duramax with the LBZ motor and Allison 6 speed and couldn't be happier.
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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2016, 09:59:30 AM »
I've spent more then my fair share of time working for Chrysler/Jeep/dodge in the late 90s thru late 2000s as well as a tenure at Toyota. Trans issues for the Mopars are just nature of the beast..for the time period I was there. My current RAM doesn't have trans problems, but if any occur it's no big deal to yank it and rebuild it.
The Tundras like brought up earlier..are awesome for sure, but for me the box on the crew cabs are just to small. Can't even fit my dirt bike in it, then the cost of them is equal to a nicely equipped ram diesel.
I've been looking at Dave Smith's website. It's crazy, I can almost get a diesel (6spd manual) for just a few more $ then a 6.4 gas pot. Looking on line 5.7 vs 6.4 power out put doesn't seem to be that big of a difference..am I seeing this wrong?

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2016, 10:08:35 AM »
The 5.7 generates almost as much power and torque. Alot of people were pretty upset when they bored out the blocks and stopped offering the 5.7L.

The specs from the factory make the bigger engines look kind of pointless. We had paperwork in our sales room detailing the improvements and we had to remove them because everybody who saw them wanted a used 5.7 instead.

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2016, 10:32:07 AM »
I had drove a 6.4 RAM last fall pulling a 24' fifth wheel stock trailer and on the pavement I could not tell the difference from my diesel, plenty of torque.  However, with all 4 wheels chained up tugging the same trailer up Rock Creek Road in 16" of wet snow the Active Cylinder Management drove me nuts.  But who in there right mind does that anyways..?  :dunno:

I run a 2011 Ram 3500 6.7 diesel, love it, but given the improvement in gas power plants over the last couple of years it is more than likely my last diesel pickup.

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2016, 10:32:14 AM »
Love my Dodge '04 HO turbo diesel quad cab long bed with 6-speed manual transmission and F.A.S.S.

It gets 24-25 mpg at posted highway speeds and will pull whatever needs to be moved.
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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2016, 10:38:30 AM »
I've spent more then my fair share of time working for Chrysler/Jeep/dodge in the late 90s thru late 2000s as well as a tenure at Toyota. Trans issues for the Mopars are just nature of the beast..for the time period I was there. My current RAM doesn't have trans problems, but if any occur it's no big deal to yank it and rebuild it.
The Tundras like brought up earlier..are awesome for sure, but for me the box on the crew cabs are just to small. Can't even fit my dirt bike in it, then the cost of them is equal to a nicely equipped ram diesel.
I've been looking at Dave Smith's website. It's crazy, I can almost get a diesel (6spd manual) for just a few more $ then a 6.4 gas pot. Looking on line 5.7 vs 6.4 power out put doesn't seem to be that big of a difference..am I seeing this wrong?

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I don't look at it from a "what's needed from a power standpoint" in this case. Better fuel economy, the ability to do a lot more should you ever need it, the lower maintenance costs of a diesel, etc all trump the fact that I only "need" a half ton.
I say go diesel and don't look back.
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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2016, 10:41:42 AM »
Actually my Tundra was cheaper than an F150 or Ram with similar options with current deals offered. Matching up best I could an F150 would have been almost $49k down from about $57k. Dodge, don't recall exactly. Mine was $51k and got it for $44.9k. GMC was cheapest with their deals but didn't like the truck. And with the double cab you can very easily fit a bike or quad. The crewmax only has the 5.5' bed.

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2016, 10:48:20 AM »
Actually my Tundra was cheaper than an F150 or Ram with similar options with current deals offered. Matching up best I could an F150 would have been almost $49k down from about $57k. Dodge, don't recall exactly. Mine was $51k and got it for $44.9k. GMC was cheapest with their deals but didn't like the truck. And with the double cab you can very easily fit a bike or quad. The crewmax only has the 5.5' bed.

I am a Toyota guy through and through. Owned Tacoma, 03 Tundra, and 08 Tundra and never once had to anything but put gas in them. That being said, yes they have 381hp and 401ft lbs of torque, (not much less then Dodges new 6.4) buy if you honestly think either the 6.4 or the Tundra 5.7 tow as well as a diesel your fooling yourself. I just sold my Tundra 5.7 and bought my Duramax. NIGHT AND DAY difference towing the same trailer. 2016 Creekside 23DBS 6180lbs dry.
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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2016, 10:53:54 AM »
I'm having the same dilemma right now. I'm looking at new trucks. Been driving my 2005 Dodge 1500 for ten years. I've had no problems with it but now the kids are getting bigger I've been wanting a larger cab so we've been looking at mega cabs. Just don't know if I want to stick with gas or get the diesel.

How do the Tundra cabs compare to that dodge mega cabs as far as size?

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2016, 10:59:54 AM »
 :yeah:  This is my quandary. If going with a half ton pickup I would hands down go Tundra. But its looking like decent sized trailer is in the future and I have a hard time thinking the half ton will be satisfying knowing the Duramax or Cummins would be that much nicer especially not being as limited and the extra power pulling over passes etc.... For now i will stick with the taco.

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2016, 11:07:13 AM »
Actually my Tundra was cheaper than an F150 or Ram with similar options with current deals offered. Matching up best I could an F150 would have been almost $49k down from about $57k. Dodge, don't recall exactly. Mine was $51k and got it for $44.9k. GMC was cheapest with their deals but didn't like the truck. And with the double cab you can very easily fit a bike or quad. The crewmax only has the 5.5' bed.
. You can get into a 16 duramax LT for $50k if you do your homework...  That compared to a gas rig in the same ballpark would be a easy choice.  Go diesel.

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2016, 11:10:32 AM »
Upgraded audio and NAV? Leather heated/cooled seats with dual climate control? Fully loaded?



Crewmax Tundra has lots of room in the back. Been a while since I've seen a megacab so can't compare.



And I'm not saying gas vs diesel, no comparison. Am saying if the OP is considering the 5.7 Hemi why not look at Toyota as well and their 5.7. If you want/need diesel Toyota is out.

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Re: Dodge gas or diesel?
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2016, 11:18:22 AM »
Upgraded audio and NAV? Leather heated/cooled seats with dual climate control? Fully loaded?



Crewmax Tundra has lots of room in the back. Been a while since I've seen a megacab so can't compare.



And I'm not saying gas vs diesel, no comparison. Am saying if the OP is considering the 5.7 Hemi why not look at Toyota as well and their 5.7. If you want/need diesel Toyota is out.

Everything minus leather..  Tons of room in the back of a crew cab.

 


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