Not looking for anyone's honey hole............

[Curly]

It cracks me up when someone says "I am not looking for anyone's honey hole"..............but in reality they really are if you read their thread.    They get told what road to go to and then go on to ask for more specifics.  Jeezus.   

 

[cbond3318]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,204961.0.html


Hey! At least I was honest. Received some great help as well!

[jennabug]

Some people, yes.  But not everyone on here is experienced enough to know what/how/when to ask too.  I started learning about hunting just last year, and it's been hard wading through the bad/good advice, inside jokes and jabs, to figure out what resources there are, where to get them, and how to use them.  It can be intimidating to new hunters that aren't used to how access land, what's legal and what's good etiquette. My first scouting, I was apprehensive about if I was actually allowed to be there, let alone walk around someone else's property with a weapon.

[Woodchuck]

The really cool thing is that if you don't have any help to offer you can just ignore it. 

[Elkrunner]

Im not looking for your honey hole but I really need you to tell me where to go shoot an animal.

[Skyvalhunter]

I am looking for someone's honey hole they are willing to give up so I can shoot a trophy deer there please help....

[headshot5]

I am looking for someone's honey hole they are willing to give up so I can shoot a trophy deer there please help....

Craigslist personal ads...  they'll hook you up just search for honey holes . 

[JDHasty]

It cracks me up when someone says "I am not looking for anyone's honey hole"..............but in reality they really are if you read their thread.    They get told what road to go to and then go on to ask for more specifics.  Jeezus.   

 

Almost every bloody time.   There are exceptions, but they are few and far between

[boneaddict]

i was considering selling a book with locations on all my deer photos along with the photo.   I wonder what you guys would pay for it.   I know many would like free info

[floatinghat]

I often give high level information often, (not if it's a first post type situation).  However, the person still needs to get out there and do the work to find animals.  I have asked and people have also provided me high level information when asked, I try and follow via PM with an update. 

Last year I got some direction something like this "north end of the unit, the areas around XXX river and XXX road would be places to consider,  East side of the road is Weyco."

I used that direction last year, I did one road trip (3+hrs each way) and hunted two days.   I saw no animals, got rained hard, but not real wet, dryed gear in fleabag hotel over night.  This years I expanded that intel via computer scouting, asked about a different approach.  Went in from a different lo, saw number of cows and a bull.  I couldn't take a shot on the bull because a combo distance/weather, (muzzy).  But between my 4 days in the unit I have about 65-70 miles between bike and boot. 

So to say, late muzzy, with this snow, look at the xx and xx roads in Matheny isn't giving away much in my opinion.

[Bango skank]

i was considering selling a book with locations on all my deer photos along with the photo.   I wonder what you guys would pay for it.   I know many would like free info

Im not payin nothin, i attached a tracking device onto your rig 2 years ago. 

[lewy]

i was considering selling a book with locations on all my deer photos along with the photo.   I wonder what you guys would pay for it.   I know many would like free info

Pm sent........  just kidding

[SniperDanWA]

I think it's a right of passage to learn an area and determine if it is a good place or not.  After 5 years in two different GMUs, I'm finally feeling confident that I will see animals, can connect, will succeed.  As to asking for help, I'll provide details to others that I've built a rapport with, know their situation or see as an opportunity to help.  I've connected with many on here in those circumstances and appreciate the interactions I've had with them.

For me, well, I guess I don't have any honey holes yet.  I'm still piecing together the map and getting dots in areas of great potential.

To those that helped me out, thank you from the bottom of my heart.  You know my name and have my contact info.  I'm there to help you, when you need it.

[Naches Sportsman]

Or when someone pm's you and were successful in that location. Took many pictures revealing where that location is, put it on the forum and Facebook pages for the whole world to see.

[JDHasty]

Or when someone pm's you and were successful in that location. Took many pictures revealing where that location is, put it on the forum and Facebook pages for the whole world to see.

Or takes their latest bff there, who then shows up with every Tom, Dick and Harry the following year.  That is another thing they specialize in. 

[Dan-o]

 

Nobody forces anybody to share.....

BUT, I have both given and received very significant Intel with people that I've met on thi site. I am grateful for them and will continue to share....... judiciously

[Skyvalhunter]

i was considering selling a book with locations on all my deer photos along with the photo.   I wonder what you guys would pay for it.   I know many would like free info

How about you pay me not to tell where your locations are!!!

[Matth]

The really cool thing is that if you don't have any help to offer you can just ignore it. 

[boneaddict]

As a side note or observation, many normal spots that people are so willing to be helpful with on here have dried up.  I ve noticed this a lot with the quality tags as people tend to be more forthcoming with information for them for some reason.  Those that are willing to look "outside the box" are being rewarded with a better experience and quality critters.    There's a big hint from someone who occasionally sees bone.

[DOUBLELUNG]

I'm pretty free with sharing what I know from the high level, when it comes to particulars and specifics I become more judicious in what I share.  I have also received good information via PM from others and appreciate the assistance.  If I share particulars for this state, it is for well-known areas, where I'm not messing up somebody's hard-earned scouting. 

If a bromance breaks up, and he really was a turd (like a turn and burn on your sister, for example) - there is nothing wrong with sharing all his honeyholes on this forum.  I think that's what happened with C Post.

[Rob]

I'm never looking for someone to give me their honey hole...  I want them to sell someone else out and give that one to me!

[cbond3318]

I'm never looking for someone to give me their honey hole...  I want them to sell someone else out and give that one to me!

Those are the good ones. Higher percentage of credible intel.

[snake]

For some reason people feel the need to go online and pound their chest.  Only a select few people take pride in finding the spots on their own, the hard way.  To me there is no greater satisfaction than doing it on my own, from scouting to the kill.  Hundreds of hours at the kitchen table with a map and a magnifying glass, and even more hours on the boots and the pickup.

[JDHasty]

For some reason people feel the need to go online and pound their chest.  Only a select few people take pride in finding the spots on their own, the hard way.  To me there is no greater satisfaction than doing it on my own, from scouting to the kill.  Hundreds of hours at the kitchen table with a map and a magnifying glass, and even more hours on the boots and the pickup.

People who do not put in the time and effort have no appreciation for what others have put in the time and effort to find and will screw it up by overshooting, bringing every Tom, Dick & Harry, posting the location online or by doing things that get access cut off for everybody.  And why not?  It doesn't cost them anything. 

[M_59]

Here is a perfect example of that scenario. Guy I know finally got a sweet waterfowl spot leased after years of working on the owner. He has sole access to the property. Meets a fellow duck hunter on a job and being the nice guy that he is, he invites him for a hunt. They go and have a great hunt.  He shows up to hunt his spot 2 weeks later and there is a crew cab 4wd parked in his parking spot. He heads out to the blind that he had built that summer. When he gets closer he sees not one, not 2, but FOUR dudes in his blind, hunting his spot. He goes up to them to ask them what the hell they think they are doing and recognizes the guy he took 2 weeks before. Dude says "geez, I didn't think you'd mind if I hunted here". Mind you that spot is about 10 miles from the Canadian border. These guys were from freakin' TACOMA!!!!

[JDHasty]

Here is a perfect example of that scenario. Guy I know finally got a sweet waterfowl spot leased after years of working on the owner. He has sole access to the property. Meets a fellow duck hunter on a job and being the nice guy that he is, he invites him for a hunt. They go and have a great hunt.  He shows up to hunt his spot 2 weeks later and there is a crew cab 4wd parked in his parking spot. He heads out to the blind that he had built that summer. When he gets closer he sees not one, not 2, but FOUR dudes in his blind, hunting his spot. He goes up to them to ask them what the hell they think they are doing and recognizes the guy he took 2 weeks before. Dude says "geez, I didn't think you'd mind if I hunted here". Mind you that spot is about 10 miles from the Canadian border. These guys were from freakin' TACOMA!!!!

That's what I am talking about!  I took a guy chuck shooting and the next thing I know he is headed over there with others.  He also went back and shot after I told him I thought had been shot enough that year. 

I went in last year, two weekends in a row, with a 22 Hornet, a 17 Hornet, a 17 Rem, a 22-250 and a 243 and by the time I left there wasn't a chuck left in the entire coulee.  That was in early May and when he showed up there with his buddy a few weeks later they never got a shot. 

He had the nerve to call me and ask for tips where to find another place to shoot chucks.  Ain't happening. 

[huntingbaldguy]

That's the stuff that makes me hesitant to take anyone hunting to my spots.  I have however committed to doing just that next year.

[Skyvalhunter]

Might want to un commit to that

[huntingbaldguy]

I trust the guy and we are scouting a new gmu next year together.  Known him for 20+ years.  We'll see how much work he's willing to put in.  Said he can't scout til early summer.  I'll be out there in march or april.  Never hunted with him before and still have time to back out if need be.

[JDHasty]

Might want to un commit to that

I second that.  What is really something to behold is the chutzpah of these jackwagons.   After taking someone else to a place I took him to, AFTER I told him it was time to leave because I thought the colony had been shot enough for that year... he heads back over with his accomplice last year and after finding no chucks to shoot he calls me and wants me to turn him onto another colony. 

Hell, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't give him the time of day. 

[Rob]

I'd send him somewhere that is a "sure thing".  Somewhere that has not seen a "chuck" present since the last ice age.

[Branden]

I don't mind helping especially if it's a draw tag that I have hunted before. If it's an OTC area it's a little different.

Regards, Branden

[Mtnwalker]

Or better yet, when somebody learns all of their significant other's hard earned "honey holes" both in state and out, then separates and parades a new group of buddies through them each year. Complete with a very in-depth write up of each trip, Stopping just short of actual map and gps coordinates.   

[DOUBLELUNG]

Or better yet, when somebody learns all of their significant other's hard earned "honey holes" both in state and out, then separates and parades a new group of buddies through them each year. Complete with a very in-depth write up of each trip, Stopping just short of actual map and gps coordinates.   

Hell hath no fury like a honeyhole spurned

[Duckhunter14]

I agree with sharing info on a draw tags. Many of us wait years to draw a coveted tag in an area we cant regularly hunt or scout. I have been given some great Intel on this site from others via PM, and have tried to do the same when given the opportunity. That doesn't mean you shouldn't go do your own scouting, or that its ok to pass that information on to a public forum or complain if you don't have success in that area. There are a lot of unwritten rules when it comes to sharing spots, taking others to a spot you hold dear, or pointing someone in the right direction. You have to just be really careful about who you share information with and also be very forthright with your expectations. I have taken people before under the premise that I have their word they will not go to this undisclosed location without me and will tell no one where we went. Again; this has bitten me before. But the expectation is clear that if that trust is broken I will never take them anywhere again. In my tight group of hunting partners it is just a given; but I hear people often talking about situations they find themselves in and have just realized a lot of people don't know. They weren't raised in a hunting family, or were not mentored by someone who placed an importance on it, or they just want to be a media sensation and are willing to screw anyone else over to get their 5 min of fame. So if you do trust someone with a spot, make sure you're clear on if they can hunt it without you, if they can talk about it, and if they can take pictures there and post them on the forum! As we say; we don't always tell people where we hunt, but when we do. We lie.

Clint

[Jpmiller]

I've been fairly open with a few PM's on here this year and with some folks I know in real life too on where I was going or where I would look with a taneum cow tag (it's literally turning into me and my closest 350 friends)

That being said other than my hunting partner I saw one other boot print the entire year/season (literally one, we couldn't figure that out). I figure if you seem decent I'll help out as alot of people have helped me and if you're willing to get out of your truck and hike back there is room for both of is.

Haven't been burned by anyone yet though. If it happens I'm sure I'll change my tune.

[Jpmiller]

Also my first post on the forum was asking for help and I got turned onto the harvest stats for the gmus. That's how everyone should respond that thing is awesome.

[JDHasty]

I agree with sharing info on a draw tags. Many of us wait years to draw a coveted tag in an area we cant regularly hunt or scout. I have been given some great Intel on this site from others via PM, and have tried to do the same when given the opportunity. That doesn't mean you shouldn't go do your own scouting, or that its ok to pass that information on to a public forum or complain if you don't have success in that area. There are a lot of unwritten rules when it comes to sharing spots, taking others to a spot you hold dear, or pointing someone in the right direction. You have to just be really careful about who you share information with and also be very forthright with your expectations. I have taken people before under the premise that I have their word they will not go to this undisclosed location without me and will tell no one where we went. Again; this has bitten me before. But the expectation is clear that if that trust is broken I will never take them anywhere again. In my tight group of hunting partners it is just a given; but I hear people often talking about situations they find themselves in and have just realized a lot of people don't know. They weren't raised in a hunting family, or were not mentored by someone who placed an importance on it, or they just want to be a media sensation and are willing to screw anyone else over to get their 5 min of fame. So if you do trust someone with a spot, make sure you're clear on if they can hunt it without you, if they can talk about it, and if they can take pictures there and post them on the forum! As we say; we don't always tell people where we hunt, but when we do. We lie.

Clint

That is pretty well the way I feel about it.   You can see that I closely crop photos and blot out any identifying landmarks before posting them.  I will freely share with people what to look for and give them a general sense of where to start looking for game, but that is pretty much as far as I will go when helping someone out.   Now, if someone had drawn a tag and I could help them out, in that case I would do what I could to help them be successful.   

[snake]

Nothing is sacred any more.  If you have one of those special places, do not tell a soul.  People can't help themselves.  I have been burned more than once.

[BGLEMIN]

All I've found are hell holes so I wouldn't be much help.