Open comment period for grizzly bear introduction

[Elkcollector82]

Guess Washington wasn’t screwed up enough. Back on the table.

https://apnews.com/d3504b782c354c7391411b9a6ad60eaa

[KNOPHISH]

200 bears is the goal? Not no but hell no. I don’t think the habitat will support or there would be more there already. Add in the conflicts then it’s a no brainer.

[Bullkllr]

Where they puttin' 200 grizz?

[Elkcollector82]

Where they puttin' 200 grizz?

200 grizzlys coming to a town near you.

[3dvapor]

I like how the expert states nothing will change for the cascade user groups.  In my opinion it would affect every person from hikers, hunters, horseback and even campgrounds on how they use the forest.  I hunt in grizzly habitat and its a pain.  Walking or biking in the dark is sketchy plus hanging all your food or securing in the truck is a pain.  Nothing like being attacked just simply because you happen to be there and one smelled you!  lol

[Bango skank]

Sounds like 200 more opportunities for people to polish up their SSS skills.

[ctwiggs1]

Anyone else think it’s weird that NPS helped with the proposal? What skin do they have in the game??

[bigtex]

Anyone else think it’s weird that NPS helped with the proposal? What skin do they have in the game??

North Cascades National Park, Ross Lake National Recreation Area, Lake Chelan NRA...

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[ctwiggs1]

Anyone else think it’s weird that NPS helped with the proposal? What skin do they have in the game??

North Cascades National Park, Ross Lake National Recreation Area, Lake Chelan NRA...

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@bigtex, thanks for the correction!  I totally forgot about North Cascades NP and didn't realize NRA were a part of the NPS.

 

[pianoman9701]

"The USFWS lied to us about the impact of wolves on WA state and criminally hid from the US Congress that they were releasing diseased animals into the Greater Yellowstone Area (GYA). Echinococcus granulosus has been found in 65% of wolves tested in ID. Not only does this disease transfer to ungulates and result in hydatid cysts, it transfers to other canids, including pets, and is a zoonosis, transferring to humans. The WA Dept. of Fish & Wildlife (WDFW) also has no idea of our current population of cougars in the state. They base their numbers on old formulas which, according to a study done (again in ID), could be underestimating cougar numbers by 50% or more. They've also acknowledged overpopulation of our black bears by increasing permits, increasing the fall season length, and increasing the number GMUs available to hunt. Our wild ungulates are taking a huge hit. And now, you want to add another apex predator, each of which could consume 30-40 fawns and calves within a 60 day period. All of this is in addition to the impact these predators will have on communities and ranchers. We need to better understand our predator spiral in WA before taking this huge step in the wrong direction. The money that sportsmen bring to the WDFW, both through license and tag fees, and the Pittman Robertson fund dollars pays for about half of their budget. By supporting this predator spiral with another apex predator added to the mix, opportunities for sportsmen and women will diminish, interest in hunting in WA will further diminish, and the funds for keeping our wildlife abundant will disappear.


This is a bad idea in a state already overcome with predators. Do not consider this plan."

[Special T]

Guess Washington wasn’t screwed up enough. Back on the table.

https://apnews.com/d3504b782c354c7391411b9a6ad60eaa

The link to the comment section in the NPS site has an error

[bigtex]

Let's face it guys, this will happen. Even Trump's Interior Secretary is in favor of it.

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[Odell]

guaranteed human conflict. People will die. Washington has the second highest human population and the smallest geographical area of all of the western states. It's just not feasible and by doing it they are killing some innocent hiker. Guaranteed. I just don't see what the reason to di it is.

[Special T]

lets not forget that Grizz hunting was outlawed in BC... which means there should be a surplus up there before long

[whack em]

My comment to the NPS.  Feel free to plagiarize from.

I strongly object a reintroduction of the Grizzly into the North Cascades. I believe the competition they would add to an abundant of other predators for food would come at a great cost to the deer and elk populations. It's not a question as to their impact, rest assured these bears will change the landscape as we currently know it. And this impact will not be favorable.

I think too, that the inevitable deadly run in with people is not worth the cost. The North Cascades are a very well visited area by several people, the vast majority whom have never recreated within proximity of North America's apex predator. This would directly jeopardize the public. (Is the death of one innocent person worth it?)

Speaking of "run ins", I am concerned for Washington's ranching and farming communities. As already played out in Wyoming & Montana, the Grizzly has and will continue to kill livestock, and cause property damage.

-To what cost will this reintroduction be placed upon the citizens of Washington?
-Who will bear the financial burden to bring them here, monitor them, attempt to establish a public relations campaign?
-How will the ranching and farming communities be compensated for their losses for a reintroduced predator affecting their livelihood?
-What anticipated impact on the native ungulate will the reintroduction be? How will this affect hunters?

Don't lie, but please don't tell me that I will be taxed more than I already am in a state which taxes their citizens more than the average.
Furthermore, don't place my feelings as an avid hunter aside. I speak for many, maybe a silent majority in this proposal.