I've owned 8 or 10 870's all but one jammed, that one was an early Wingmaster. They have all been traded off for something better. I'm now shooting a Beretta or a Baikal, the Russian is my salt water gun. I still have a few pump guns just for fun, a Winchester Model 12 (Trap), Sears (Winchester) and a BPS. I use the BPS for Sporting Clays pup gun events.