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constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« on: February 05, 2017, 11:04:40 AM »
Is it legal for a state to charge you a fee to own a
firearm.beings that it is a second amendment right of the people gun owners of washington we need a federal judge to step in

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 11:08:00 AM »
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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 11:14:51 AM »
Sounds like HB 1387. My rep's assured me it will go nowhere in the legislature but noted that the next step will be an initiative where it will pass overwhelmingly.

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2017, 11:36:11 AM »
Any type of inconvenience has been ruled unconstitutional for voting rights.  Even if you give them a free ID, the bus fee to get there or even the time required to apply is too high a burden to impose.

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2017, 11:38:08 AM »
Is it legal for a state to charge you a fee to own a
firearm.beings that it is a second amendment right of the people gun owners of washington we need a federal judge to step in

Unlikely that a fee to exercise a Constitutional right would pass legal muster.

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 01:21:11 PM »
I no it will eventually pass on A iniitiative what I am saying if they want it they fund it.I see a lot of constitutional fees ready to be charged to the protesters in the streets promoting their rights to free speech. From what I am seeing its legal to throw rocks,bottles, and burn cars buildings and what ever gets in their way we might as well charge them for their right to free speech. Why don't we charge for every right we have left probably pay off the national dept in no time

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 01:27:59 PM »
I no it will eventually pass on A iniitiative what I am saying if they want it they fund it.I see a lot of constitutional fees ready to be charged to the protesters in the streets promoting their rights to free speech. From what I am seeing its legal to throw rocks,bottles, and burn cars buildings and what ever gets in their way we might as well charge them for their right to free speech. Why don't we charge for every right we have left probably pay off the national dept in no time

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2017, 01:33:28 PM »
What guns?  :dunno:    :bash:

FWIW I don't think it would deemed legal even if it passed with a voter initiative.

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2017, 01:38:49 PM »
I no it will eventually pass on A iniitiative what I am saying if they want it they fund it.I see a lot of constitutional fees ready to be charged to the protesters in the streets promoting their rights to free speech. From what I am seeing its legal to throw rocks,bottles, and burn cars buildings and what ever gets in their way we might as well charge them for their right to free speech. Why don't we charge for every right we have left probably pay off the national dept in no time

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2017, 01:43:42 PM »
What guns?  :dunno:    :bash:

FWIW I don't think it would deemed legal even if it passed with a voter initiative.

 :yeah:

How do they know who owns what? Oh yea I-594. :bash:

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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2017, 01:45:32 PM »
I no it will eventually pass on A iniitiative what I am saying if they want it they fund it.I see a lot of constitutional fees ready to be charged to the protesters in the streets promoting their rights to free speech. From what I am seeing its legal to throw rocks,bottles, and burn cars buildings and what ever gets in their way we might as well charge them for their right to free speech. Why don't we charge for every right we have left probably pay off the national dept in no time

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If they pass a initiative we will have to pay some attorney fees to have it be found to be unconstitutional.
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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2017, 02:30:23 PM »
I no it will eventually pass on A iniitiative what I am saying if they want it they fund it.I see a lot of constitutional fees ready to be charged to the protesters in the streets promoting their rights to free speech. From what I am seeing its legal to throw rocks,bottles, and burn cars buildings and what ever gets in their way we might as well charge them for their right to free speech. Why don't we charge for every right we have left probably pay off the national dept in no time

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If they pass a initiative we will have to pay some attorney fees to have it be found to be unconstitutional.
:yeah: A fee to exercise a right would be unconstitutional.
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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2017, 03:06:48 PM »
I believe that to be the case as well.....   but I am not convinced that it won't happen anyway..... wait a second......   I-594 comes to mind.   

And remember: the power to tax is the power to destroy. Those who oppose gun rights will use multiple paths to eat away at our rights. 
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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2017, 03:21:02 PM »
I believe that to be the case as well.....   but I am not convinced that it won't happen anyway..... wait a second......   I-594 comes to mind.   

And remember: the power to tax is the power to destroy. Those who oppose gun rights will use multiple paths to eat away at our rights.
I agree. They will not give up. But, this last election gives us a opportunity to take back ground we have given up.
The Hearing Protection Act is one step.
Seating a conservative on the Supreme Court is another step.
National concealed carry reciprocity done the right way might be a step in the right direction, although doing away with the requirement for a permit altogether is the right step.
Regarding I-594, there have not been any test cases yet that can go to the high courts to determine constitutionality of this bogus law.
Th CCW permit and the associated fees are taxes on exercising our 2A rights.
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Re: constitutional rights and charging a fee to own a firearm?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2017, 03:34:01 PM »
Ensley and. Bobby are going to attack gun owners any way they can. Because they both have their eye on a prize outside this state. They are using us to set the ground work.
The courts have ruled that reasonable restriction can be applied. There is no contitutional right to own a AR say.

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