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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2017, 08:10:59 AM »
A three-point backhoe is almost universally cautioned against because of the stress it puts on the 3ph, the bell housing and the transmission. 

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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2017, 08:22:32 AM »
I've had a B7800 for 12 years now.  I couldn't imagine life without it.  Backhoe and front loader is all I have.  Don't need anything else.
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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2017, 09:05:49 AM »
The deal fell thru so i am back to looking, now looking at brand new so it may only be a BX1870
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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2017, 11:28:52 PM »
A three-point backhoe is almost universally cautioned against because of the stress it puts on the 3ph, the bell housing and the transmission.

Not being rude but, those are more of a lawn mower than a tractor in that small size. Plenty useful but not made for heavy work with a mower deck under your feet
 
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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2017, 07:42:20 AM »
A three-point backhoe is almost universally cautioned against because of the stress it puts on the 3ph, the bell housing and the transmission.

Not being rude but, those are more of a lawn mower than a tractor in that small size. Plenty useful but not made for heavy work with a mower deck under your feet

I'm kinda confused by all this.  I've never seen a 3 point backhoe...?  I have a backhoe for my bx, but it mounts to the frame directly and has noting to do with the 3pt.  Also hydraulic, so no bell housing or transmission stress. 

Is there a backhoe that mounts to a 3 point?  I can't really picture how that would work.  Power from the rear pto or something...?
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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2017, 08:41:05 AM »


I'm kinda confused by all this.  I've never seen a 3 point backhoe...?  I have a backhoe for my bx, but it mounts to the frame directly and has noting to do with the 3pt.  Also hydraulic, so no bell housing or transmission stress. 

Is there a backhoe that mounts to a 3 point?  I can't really picture how that would work.  Power from the rear pto or something...?

There's many Three-point backhoes.  Most of the third-party manufacturers make backhoes which can be sub-frame mounted or hang off the 3PH.
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The danger to a standard medium duty compact or sub compact tractor with a 3PH back hoe happens when you get working and are tossing the rear end of the tractor around.  Most tractors don't have a frame, so the block and bell housing are structural.  Start working it in a fashion it really wasn't designed for and a broken bell housing or split tractor can result.  That's why sub frames are commonly used, and why tractor-loader-backhoes use a full frame.

The source of hydraulics is a seperate issue.  The factory installed pump can be used, normally from the power beyond port.  Some backhoes and manufacturers use the PTO because the factory hydraulics isn't sized for a backhoe.

A three-point backhoe is almost universally cautioned against because of the stress it puts on the 3ph, the bell housing and the transmission.

Not being rude but, those are more of a lawn mower than a tractor in that small size. Plenty useful but not made for heavy work with a mower deck under your feet
 

I'm not really aware of the machine we were talking about, just making points in a general sense.  I would guess that in any case a sub frame is a good idea.

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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2017, 12:00:27 PM »
Huh, that seems like an odd way of doing things to me.  I've never seen that before, but I get how that wouldn't be a great idea.

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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2017, 01:03:34 PM »
Huh, that seems like an odd way of doing things to me.  I've never seen that before, but I get how that wouldn't be a great idea.

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Orchard tractors commonly use 3 point forks to move apple bins around. Mainly old ones to get boxes from where forklifts can't go to loading areas. Of course, kind of old school. Most now use self loading trailers behind tractors which can pick the boxes. Tall rigs obviously can't go into orchards without damaging trees.
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Re: Kubota BX or B
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2017, 01:06:21 PM »
The JD at the ranch where I worked had a full subframe which mounted clear up under the tractor and the three point all had to be removed. It was a 4130 or something like that if I remember.
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