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What's the difference if I text you a pic of a deer while we're hunting or a camera does. It's all electronic communication isn't it?
Quote from: lord grizzly on July 12, 2017, 09:43:45 AMQuote from: White Pass Outfitters on July 12, 2017, 09:26:28 AMI have been waiting for the game departments to say no cameras in the wilderness due to being a mechanical device. Not sure of how they determine whats mechanical or not. I do know the FS told me no coma-longs in the wilderness a few yrs back. I had to laugh about that one. You already need a permit to film in the wilderness. I imagine it would be a pretty easy thing to add trail cams to that lawIt's really no different than your position, you are not opposed to the things you use but want to ban the things other hunters use!
Quote from: White Pass Outfitters on July 12, 2017, 09:26:28 AMI have been waiting for the game departments to say no cameras in the wilderness due to being a mechanical device. Not sure of how they determine whats mechanical or not. I do know the FS told me no coma-longs in the wilderness a few yrs back. I had to laugh about that one. You already need a permit to film in the wilderness. I imagine it would be a pretty easy thing to add trail cams to that law
I have been waiting for the game departments to say no cameras in the wilderness due to being a mechanical device. Not sure of how they determine whats mechanical or not. I do know the FS told me no coma-longs in the wilderness a few yrs back. I had to laugh about that one.
Quote from: lord grizzly on July 12, 2017, 09:42:09 AMWhat's the difference if I text you a pic of a deer while we're hunting or a camera does. It's all electronic communication isn't it?Difference is you're not going to be in the woods 24/7 and in multiple places at once like cams can be.
If that gets passed, where will it end. Range finders, dialing in your scope and isnt a rifle a mechanical thing. I say fight hard on not letting them get there foot in the door !!! We are already living by to many rules and regulations. And yes I am anti-gov !!!
Quote from: Taco280AI on July 12, 2017, 10:18:57 AMQuote from: lord grizzly on July 12, 2017, 09:42:09 AMWhat's the difference if I text you a pic of a deer while we're hunting or a camera does. It's all electronic communication isn't it?Difference is you're not going to be in the woods 24/7 and in multiple places at once like cams can be.So you agree with banning them I take it?
Quote from: bearpaw on July 12, 2017, 09:48:33 AMQuote from: lord grizzly on July 12, 2017, 09:43:45 AMQuote from: White Pass Outfitters on July 12, 2017, 09:26:28 AMI have been waiting for the game departments to say no cameras in the wilderness due to being a mechanical device. Not sure of how they determine whats mechanical or not. I do know the FS told me no coma-longs in the wilderness a few yrs back. I had to laugh about that one. You already need a permit to film in the wilderness. I imagine it would be a pretty easy thing to add trail cams to that lawIt's really no different than your position, you are not opposed to the things you use but want to ban the things other hunters use! I currently use trail cams. Difference between us is I see the potential problems and I'm willing to sacrifice a practice I currently use to avoid it. Are you?
If I had to vote, I would let the existing use go on and restrict the use of cameras that transmit to outside the hunting season. That is, you can use them to scout, but not to hunt. My reasoning is that by transmitting pictures, it essentially allows a hunter to be at two or more places at once. It is similar to the drone argument, it allows the hunter to get to get a view of someplace without actually having to get there. This is very different in my mind from humping up to a high point and glassing because you have done the work to get that view and are simply using glass which has a long historical precedence.
Quote from: Stein on July 13, 2017, 08:06:46 AMIf I had to vote, I would let the existing use go on and restrict the use of cameras that transmit to outside the hunting season. That is, you can use them to scout, but not to hunt. My reasoning is that by transmitting pictures, it essentially allows a hunter to be at two or more places at once. It is similar to the drone argument, it allows the hunter to get to get a view of someplace without actually having to get there. This is very different in my mind from humping up to a high point and glassing because you have done the work to get that view and are simply using glass which has a long historical precedence. But for the bolded, there are outfits that provide multiple guides and game cams/scouting for a single client. Some of those high rollers with gov tags wait around until the guides have scoured he woods and poured through all the photos.
Quote from: Stein on July 13, 2017, 08:06:46 AMIf I had to vote, I would let the existing use go on and restrict the use of cameras that transmit to outside the hunting season. That is, you can use them to scout, but not to hunt. My reasoning is that by transmitting pictures, it essentially allows a hunter to be at two or more places at once. It is similar to the drone argument, it allows the hunter to get to get a view of someplace without actually having to get there. This is very different in my mind from humping up to a high point and glassing because you have done the work to get that view and are simply using glass which has a long historical precedence. Perhaps you should actually use one to realistically get a sense of what advantage a cellular cam gives someone . Sitting on a ridge in a well traveled game area and glassing a mile or two away with high powered spotting scopes also allows one to be in two palces as well.The drone comparison is also not realistic. One has to be reasonably close when using a drone. Not so with cell cams. I totally agree with Bearpaw and others that we hunbters tend to want to regulate away other's opportunity based on gut feelings and emotion. Hey, I personally think long range shooting of game animals at 500-1000 yards is far worst than cams, cellular or otherwise, as far as taking animals that would otherwise live to see another day. I also think it promotes a somewhat similar thought process to say sky busting in some hunters. JMO