Boats and bankies: Etiquette question

[SteelheadTed]

I think it is a tougher sell if you are off the bank a ways since boat fisherman tend to assume that they are safe if they are out of casting distance.  But, I agree with "first in" dibs.   

I would have asked the guy, "Hey mister, you mean to tell me you've been fishing this river for 30 years and the only spots you've found in your BOAT are bankie spots?"

But this guy is repeatedly setting up within casting distance. If we weren't dropping 3 spin n glo, we could easily launch 6oz of lead right on top of him with a single on it.

Wouldn't that be fair if he anchored in casting range and I decide to launch a 6oz weight tied directly to my braid over his line and haul in his wobbled instead?

Most guys don't troll that stretch between the bank guys and the hog lines. Which leaves a good buffer. But every now and then some guy decides there just isn't enough room on the Columbia and has troll between the 2. I guess without the hog lines to show him where to go he can't figure it out.

I see, I didn't understand he was that close.

[SteelheadTed]

I know of a guide out west who would pay guys to fake fish from the bank in the good holes on the river where he would be taking clients on. Most boats will go around the bank fisherman, so he has the holes for his clients to fish.

He makes enough as a guide to pay guys to sit around?  He must have a good gig to have that kind of spare change.

[snake]

If you are a bank fisherman, just start throwing rocks at the boats.  They will move.  Boat fisherman, if someone can throw a rock from shore and reach your boat, you are too close, quit being a moron.

[PolarBear]

I work with a guy who had a bankie purposely snag a 40+ pound king that he was fighting in a hole on the Hump and made him lose it.  He beached his boat and beat the holy snot out of him, so badly that his buddies had to help him back to his rig.  The guy was dumb enough to stand there while he got out of the boat. 

[Alchase]

I made the mistake of fishing Lake Wilderness (in Kent) on opening day once back in the 90s.
I launched my boat, then had to walk 1/2 a mile from where I could park my truck and trailer, back to the lake.
It was so crowded, You could almost walk a crossed the boats, no way you could troll.

There were People fishing from shore on both sides, casting out  1/3 of the width of the lake.
Some had 3 oz pyramid weights with trebles, were purposely trying to snag the boaters gear, then ripping it back.

I lasted about an hour, and decided to leave. At the boat ramp, the was a WDFW officer, checking everyone coming on and off the lake. I asked him what the rules are about boating and shore fishing. His reply was,

"if they can cast to your distance, you are fishing to close to them!"

I have never fished Lake Wilderness since.

I work with a guy who had a bankie purposely snag a 40+ pound king that he was fighting in a hole on the Hump and made him lose it.  He beached his boat and beat the holy snot out of him, so badly that his buddies had to help him back to his rig.  The guy was dumb enough to stand there while he got out of the boat. 

I quit fishing the Skokomish river, because there were Skokes from the tribal side, who would wait for you to hook a fish, then purposely cast over your line with jigs that had multiple trebles on them, then rip your fish to their side of the river, laughing and yelling racial insults the whole time.

WDFW offices just stood there and watched the the whole time and did nothing until one guy waded the river to confront the Skoke who just stole his sons fish.
He was charged with trespassing, handcuffed and taken away.

[snake]

I made the mistake of fishing Lake Wilderness (in Kent) on opening day once back in the 90s.
I launched my boat, then had to walk 1/2 a mile from where I could park my truck and trailer, back to the lake.
It was so crowded, You could almost walk a crossed the boats, no way you could troll.

There were People fishing from shore on both sides, casting out  1/3 of the width of the lake.
Some had 3 oz pyramid weights with trebles, were purposely trying to snag the boaters gear, then ripping it back.

I lasted about an hour, and decided to leave. At the boat ramp, the was a WDFW officer, checking everyone coming on and off the lake. I asked him what the rules are about boating and shore fishing. His reply was,

"if they can cast to your distance, you are fishing to close to them!"

I have never fished Lake Wilderness since.

I work with a guy who had a bankie purposely snag a 40+ pound king that he was fighting in a hole on the Hump and made him lose it.  He beached his boat and beat the holy snot out of him, so badly that his buddies had to help him back to his rig.  The guy was dumb enough to stand there while he got out of the boat. 

I quit fishing the Skokomish river, because there were Skokes from the tribal side, who would wait for you to hook a fish, then purposely cast over your line with jigs that had multiple trebles on them, then rip your fish to their side of the river, laughing and yelling racial insults the whole time.

WDFW offices just stood there and watched the the whole time and did nothing until one guy waded the river to confront the Skoke who just stole his sons fish.
He was charged with trespassing, handcuffed and taken away.

Oh God, don't start the Skok Stories this could get ugly!

[PolarBear]

 
I grew up dealing with the Skoks and their love of poaching big game and fish. I have dozens of Skok stories.

[SteelheadTed]

If you are a bank fisherman, just start throwing rocks at the boats.  They will move.  Boat fisherman, if someone can throw a rock from shore and reach your boat, you are too close, quit being a moron.

You really think that is a good way to go?  Do you think that encourages all of us to get along or might it actually be a disincentive?

I hope your joking.  Throwing rocks at folks is not cool.

[BigGoonTuna]

about 10 years ago, i had a somewhat well known guide decide to deploy his backtrolling gear on what used to be a popular bank area on the nisqually(above the trestle, off the rocks on the side of the road before it was all posted and gated off).  the river was about 50 feet wide there, and he put his gear right where i had been casting.  i made a cast right over all 4 of his lines and gave a big rip on them, tangling everything to hell, then he went into freakout mode, i lost count of how many F-bombs he dropped.  my dad was  just downriver of me, he yelled "you're a real class act talking that way", then he shut up and took off.

i've got little patience for boaters, especially guides, who just *have* to get their spot over bank fishermen, especially on a river like the nisqually where access is piss-poor.  i've got a sled, i use it to get away from other people, not join the crowd.  hard concept, i know.

[PolarBear]

I don't have much use for guides, fishing or hunting. Too many seem to feel entitled to the choice spots. I had a guide throw a major riggin fit on the Hump because I pulled a 26 pound steelhead out of a slot that he had worked for over an hour. When he had to pull up lines because my fish ran through the hole they were in he called me every name in the book. This guide was notorious for low holing anyone on the he water, especially bankies.

[BigGoonTuna]

lemme guess, this guy is a notorious blowhard and thinks of himself as something of a rock star?

if it's the one i'm thinking of, i was fishing the bluff hole on the hump from the bank about 6 or 7 years ago.  one other guy was there.  aforementioned guide slides in just above us, and everyone starts long-lining the drift we're fishing with bobbers(these guys are only about 20' off the bank, so it was tying up the whole drift).  the other bankie asked(nicely) if he would mind giving us some more room, and the guide just loses it, goes into some tirade about how he was gonna pull the boat over and just stand right next to us and fish.  couldn't help but shake my head, the 3 other guys in the boat didn't say a word.

[Miles]

That's when you start lobbing 12 oz weights at their boat...

[PolarBear]

lemme guess, this guy is a notorious blowhard and thinks of himself as something of a rock star?

if it's the one i'm thinking of, i was fishing the bluff hole on the hump from the bank about 6 or 7 years ago.  one other guy was there.  aforementioned guide slides in just above us, and everyone starts long-lining the drift we're fishing with bobbers(these guys are only about 20' off the bank, so it was tying up the whole drift).  the other bankie asked(nicely) if he would mind giving us some more room, and the guide just loses it, goes into some tirade about how he was gonna pull the boat over and just stand right next to us and fish.  couldn't help but shake my head, the 3 other guys in the boat didn't say a word.

Yep. The guy iis a real hot head. I'm surprised that he has any return clients. He low holed us on the Clearwater and the Hoh.

[theleo]

On rivers like the Columbia and Snake, if I can cast to a spot and a boat trolls through or anchors there theyre to close. I'll be casting rite off the side of their motor if they insist on staying there. On the other hand if it requires a kayak or drone to get my gear there then I'm asking for trouble, guys bought their boats to be able to fish those spots.

There's already verbage in some areas that says only "hand casted lines" are legal to use because of this issue.

[snake]

If you are a bank fisherman, just start throwing rocks at the boats.  They will move.  Boat fisherman, if someone can throw a rock from shore and reach your boat, you are too close, quit being a moron.

You really think that is a good way to go?  Do you think that encourages all of us to get along or might it actually be a disincentive?

I hope your joking.  Throwing rocks at folks is not cool.

Yes Rocks are great fun. Very cool, dude man hey bro. Think of it as an act of parenting of sorts.  if no one teaches the dummies in boats getting too close a lesson they will never learn.  Throw a rock off the side of their boat, they will give the bankies much more room in the future.