What diesel pickup to get

[Forks]

I have bought two Dodge's in my life, my first and last. Love the Cummins and Mercedes G56 6sp. The rest is a cheap pile of scrap.

[Special T]

The Cummins 6speed stick is a workhorse and the only reason to buy a new Dodge. I'd consider a new one but you can't take the new emissions crap off a commercial vehicle, big no no


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[archery288]

As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?

It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes.  H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down.  Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market.  Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change.  Most will just turn their heads for an oil change.  But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.

I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back.  If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels.  I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel.  If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg.  I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter.  In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters.  Everyone has their own opinions on the brands.  Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges.  Each brand has their own issues. 

[2MANY]

"fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back."

This is the exact way my 2010 F-350 was set up.
Awesome combo especially if you let it breath better too.

The mini max is awesome and the street setting is perfect.

[Encore 280]

Here's a pic of my '09 F350, 6.4L, SD, 6 speed manual with 56k, male anatomy enhancement device. Had 46k on it when I bought it in January. Has egr delete and that's it. I found the previous owner and he said it had a Spartan tuner in it but who knows where that ended up. I love this truck. Haven't had a single issue with it yet, knock on wood. I traded a 2011 Chev 2500 Dura Max in on it and don't regret it at all. I bought the Chev used and never had an issue with the engine or tranny, they were great. It was just all the other stuff like the DEF issues, the heater motor went out the middle of last winter over in E'burg during the cold and snow, not fun. Just got tired of the issues and went back to the Blue Oval.

[baker5150]

As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?

It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes.  H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down.  Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market.  Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change.  Most will just turn their heads for an oil change.  But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.

I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back.  If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels.  I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel.  If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg.  I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter.  In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters.  Everyone has their own opinions on the brands.  Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges.  Each brand has their own issues.

This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long. 
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only"  same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet. 

Not sure if a factory dealer will do it.  I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.

[archery288]

As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?

It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes.  H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down.  Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market.  Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change.  Most will just turn their heads for an oil change.  But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.

I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back.  If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels.  I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel.  If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg.  I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter.  In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters.  Everyone has their own opinions on the brands.  Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges.  Each brand has their own issues.

This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long. 
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only"  same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet. 

Not sure if a factory dealer will do it.  I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.

Sorry, I was thinking of factory dealers, not all shops.  Should have clarified. 

[Curly]

Good info.  Thanks for answering my question.......for a while there I didn't think anyone would answer and I didn't feel like googling at this point.  I used to have an older early 90's diesel and that was before all the newer emissions crap.  I would like to get another diesel someday, but that won't be for a while. 

[2MANY]

I believe most of the Dodge and Chevy dealers will do the chip/delete thingy because it's the only way they can run with the Ford.

[Miles]

I believe most of the Dodge and Chevy dealers will do the chip/delete thingy because it's the only way they can run with the Ford.

I love the jokes in this thread.


The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

[Machias]

The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no!  No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.

[cbond3318]

The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no!  No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.

  I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.

 

[Timberstalker]

LMAO^^^^^

[TheHunt]

Yea, they are crazy expensive.  My F150 eco boost, 4X4 crew cab was $33K.  That was the cheapest I could get.  Buying a diesel F250 or F350 is crazy expensive.  What about a F450 or F550? 

[Miles]

Deals can be had if you shop around and have time on your side.