wdfw To slaughter mt saint helens elk herd

[Buckrub]

Hoof rot is caused by lack of minerals...go see darigold and get them some mineral blocks. Cattle can get it also.

[sturgeon seeker]

the odfw needs to show the wdfw how to run things. The game wardens around here are *censored*s. they think they are somebody because they carry a gun and a piece of tin. The wdfw are not smart enough to let us hunters harvest these animals. they would rather hired guns or the damn indians kill them all. that's just my 

[Snapshot]

CastleRocker,
Can it be proven that Cabela's bought up that land and is now charging access fees?
Snappy

[TONTO]

No Cabela's aren't charging fees,well yet anyhow.The property was bought by an invester and Cabela's were running an ad for the lots.

Mt St Hellens problems go way beyond the WDFW.Ever since the damn thing blew it's top all Olympia could see were dollar $ign$.They thought they had the new "Grand Canyon" in their back yard,as well as all the tourist money it would bring.The tourist industry never took off,sure lots of people have taken the drive up there to see it,but once you've seen it thats it,the pot of gold has never been there.This is why the Cold Water center is closed.Well the elk heard is all part of the experience the state is worried about what the non-hunting tourists would think if they actualy had to see elk being harvested.Now the state wants to build hotel resorts up there and conect Spirit Lake Hwy with Hwy 12.If somehow they would have been able to get National Park status they would be happy as hell.Federal money and hopefully more toursts.This would shut down all hunting in the area.Next will be the wolves,let the wolves controll the elk numbers and as a bonus the guests at the St Hellens Hilton can listen to the wolves howl at night,that should bring in a few more bucks.WDFW would like to see Spirit Lake opened up to fishing,but the lock it all up forever ppl are throwing a fit.Any new recreation opertunities in the area are going to be a very ruff battle.

[JoeVon]

CastleRocker,
Can it be proven that Cabela's bought up that land and is now charging access fees?
Snappy

Cabelas did not buy the property.  Couple of Doctors/Investors from Seattle bought it. 

[bucklucky]

The crook Paul Valentine was the listing agent for the St Helens properties, Cabelas was just advertising it , probably for "small" fee. ??

[jadeball1]

I had the opportunity to hunt the Margaret unit this past year.(Archery bull tag) The majority of the elk were in the east portion of the unit, I fell because of the diverse habitat that is esential for increased numbers of elk. IMO, there is an abundance of bulls and that the herd would benefit from harvesting more of the rags that make up the majority of the elk. The proposed 7 bull tags for archery this year is a joke. I think the WDFW would benefit from surveying some of the past permit holders on the quality of the hunt and using this information to better manage the unit. The Margaret unit is a tremendous opportunity for the state to utilize, and yet the deteriorization is frustrating to say the least. my 

[Buckrub]

 

The Margaret unit is a classic example of for profit animal permit sales gone bad. It did not create a "trophy" hunt.

IMO I would put 400 youth "any elk tags out" and get some young people in the system.