Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?

[Biggerhammer]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Not at all... When it comes to heavy for caliber bullets. It's about total case capacity. Just like big block motors. There's no replacement for displacement.

[lord grizzly]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Doing  some load development now for a custom 30. So far pretty nice results. Still working up loads but I'm seeing 2850 + fps on 220 gr. Bullets with 75gr of H100. Pretty good for that weight bullet over that charge.

[lord grizzly]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Not at all... When it comes to heavy for caliber bullets. It's about total case capacity. Just like big block motors. There's no replacement for displacement.

The 30 nosler is based on the 404 jefferys case. There's pretty good capacity under that 30 cal bullet

[Biggerhammer]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Not at all... When it comes to heavy for caliber bullets. It's about total case capacity. Just like big block motors. There's no replacement for displacement.

The 30 nosler is based on the 404 jefferys case. There's pretty good capacity under that 30 cal bullet

So is the 300 RUM??? More case capacity than the 30 Nosler.

.30 Nosler H2O Capacity 89.9
.300 Ultra H2O Capacity 110.2


Sure, it's fun to crunch numbers. Bottom line, very few will ever shoot their rifle at a distance that's going to matter between the two and a game animal won't be able to know the difference.

[lord grizzly]

Is it? I thought that was a longer case? There's no doubt any of these 30's will do the job. And really/ balisticly a 300 win does everything you need that a 30 can do. I willl say the 30 nosler is a pleasure to reload and head space for. And with the action i used fits great in a magazine (338 lapua aics mag) have shot and loaded for 300 win for years, when it was time to build another custom the 30 nosler just sounded fun.

[Biggerhammer]

Is it? I thought that was a longer case? There's no doubt any of these 30's will do the job. And really/ balisticly a 300 win does everything you need that a 30 can do. I willl say the 30 nosler is a pleasure to reload and head space for. And with the action i used fits great in a magazine (338 lapua aics mag) have shot and loaded for 300 win for years, when it was time to build another custom the 30 nosler just sounded fun.

They are all fun! All the Ultra Mags along with the .30 Nolser are based on a .404 Jeffery case. Just different lengths, neck diameter and shoulder angles.

.458-.404 Jeffery or 450-.375 Ultra or .458-.300 Ultra. Call it what you will. It a .458 bullet in a Bell .404 Jeffery case.

[lord grizzly]

That thing looks ridiculous...I think I need one

[carpsniperg2]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Not at all... When it comes to heavy for caliber bullets. It's about total case capacity. Just like big block motors. There's no replacement for displacement.

Like I said it depends on bullet choice and powder choice. Lets take retumbo on nosler data run a 200 with both guns. A 24" barrel 300 rum is listed max at 3070 and a 26" barrel 30 is listed at 3080. That's tick for tack note there is 2" of barrel difference but the point I am making is you CAN get 300 RUM results in the 30 nosler. Depending on bullet choice and powder choice.

[Special T]

I find the discussion all these wild cat calibers interesting. What impresseses me the most however is the chops several of you wildcatters give the. 300 win mag. When I build a long range gun it will be this caliber. It may not be as swank and sexy as some if the other options, but I will always go to the tried and true work horse. Be it the 300 win mag, Ford 7.3, 5.9 Cummins or 7/8 key drive 12 gauge slug. I like things that work well, excell and have longevity.

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[Biggerhammer]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Not at all... When it comes to heavy for caliber bullets. It's about total case capacity. Just like big block motors. There's no replacement for displacement.

Like I said it depends on bullet choice and powder choice. Lets take retumbo on nosler data run a 200 with both guns. A 24" barrel 300 rum is listed max at 3070 and a 26" barrel 30 is listed at 3080. That's tick for tack note there is 2" of barrel difference but the point I am making is you CAN get 300 RUM results in the 30 nosler. Depending on bullet choice and powder choice.

Kind of like the old .300 WSM gives .300 Win Mag performance. Not! Own them both. Taken game with both, like them both. Same size hole in game with both. .300 WSM matching .300 Win Mag performance. In the same barrel configuration.  NEVER!

Does it matter for hunting? NO.. Run what you BRUNG! If I had to have two rifles for Northwest big game or for the planet, for that matter. It would be a .300 Win Mag and a .375 H&H. If I could sneak a third in, it would be a 7x57.

[carpsniperg2]

Of course, this is the crazy guy that has zapped everything from blackbuck to elk the last 2 years with his 6.5 stw who would have thought a 6.5 could kill all those animals with that tiny bullet

I just went through the whole list and did a lot of thinking. I have a monster 30 and wanted a smaller light weight gun around 9lbs with a 26" barrel that would run a 200eldx as a target bullet at 3k or better. I looked at the powders that I have and what I like to run and compared ballistics and I settled on the 30 nosler.

[Biggerhammer]

Of course, this is the crazy guy that has zapped everything from blackbuck to elk the last 2 years with his 6.5 stw who would have thought a 6.5 could kill all those animals with that tiny bullet

I just went through the whole list and did a lot of thinking. I have a monster 30 and wanted a smaller light weight gun around 9lbs with a 26" barrel that would run a 200eldx as a target bullet at 3k or better. I looked at the powders that I have and what I like to run and compared ballistics and I settled on the 30 nosler.

Wouldn't know. Never shot a fast 6.5😉😉😉. Shooting stuff, is as easy as pulling the trigger.👍

.300 RUM case right. Gee, something with a 6.5 160gr Matrix left.😉

[carpsniperg2]

Of course, this is the crazy guy that has zapped everything from blackbuck to elk the last 2 years with his 6.5 stw who would have thought a 6.5 could kill all those animals with that tiny bullet

I just went through the whole list and did a lot of thinking. I have a monster 30 and wanted a smaller light weight gun around 9lbs with a 26" barrel that would run a 200eldx as a target bullet at 3k or better. I looked at the powders that I have and what I like to run and compared ballistics and I settled on the 30 nosler.

Wouldn't know. Never shot a fast 6.5😉😉😉. Shooting stuff, is as easy as pulling the trigger.👍

You mean squeezing right Don't hit as many pulling

[Eric M]

I just picked up another custom. I have a 30-378 already so I wanted a smaller 30 that was lighter weight. I went over tons of data.

I went with a 30 nosler. Depending on bullet weight and powder choices. It will out run the 300 win and you can for sure get 300 rum performance out of it.

Even with the heavy bullets?  210 grain

Not at all... When it comes to heavy for caliber bullets. It's about total case capacity. Just like big block motors. There's no replacement for displacement.

Like I said it depends on bullet choice and powder choice. Lets take retumbo on nosler data run a 200 with both guns. A 24" barrel 300 rum is listed max at 3070 and a 26" barrel 30 is listed at 3080. That's tick for tack note there is 2" of barrel difference but the point I am making is you CAN get 300 RUM results in the 30 nosler. Depending on bullet choice and powder choice.

Kind of like the old .300 WSM gives .300 Win Mag performance. Not! Own them both. Taken game with both, like them both. Same size hole in game with both. .300 WSM matching .300 Win Mag performance. In the same barrel configuration.  NEVER!

Does it matter for hunting? NO.. Run what you BRUNG! If I had to have two rifles for Northwest big game or for the planet, for that matter. It would be a .300 Win Mag and a .375 H&H. If I could sneak a third in, it would be a 7x57.

As someone more recoil sensitive than the rest of you, I think I'll stick with the 7MM Rem Mag.

[Biggerhammer]

Of course, this is the crazy guy that has zapped everything from blackbuck to elk the last 2 years with his 6.5 stw who would have thought a 6.5 could kill all those animals with that tiny bullet

I just went through the whole list and did a lot of thinking. I have a monster 30 and wanted a smaller light weight gun around 9lbs with a 26" barrel that would run a 200eldx as a target bullet at 3k or better. I looked at the powders that I have and what I like to run and compared ballistics and I settled on the 30 nosler.

Wouldn't know. Never shot a fast 6.5😉😉😉. Shooting stuff, is as easy as pulling the trigger.👍

You mean squeezing right Don't hit as many pulling

Slap it , pull it, squeeze it! If you know how to drive a rifle, it's not a issue. It's all so easy, forums complicate it for the guys that just don't know any better.