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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 05:53:36 PM »
 :)Thats why Gary likes it, the Nova is so ugly it makes Gary look good!!!! :chuckle:
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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 06:48:34 PM »
Carl,
I need all the help I can get brother, all the help I can get  :hello:

Plus ugly guns kill birds better. If ya can't hit'em, just the mere sight of an ugly gun scares'em to death :yike:
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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 08:14:25 AM »
I may get a lashing but 10 gauges are over rated. look at a 3 1/2" 12 gauge and there is no real gain in velocity or payload by owning a 10.
I do have one and the ammo selection is poor and expensive, choke selection is limited.
Mine just stays in the safe. I may get it patterned for turkeys some time but IMO the 12 ga. 3 1/2 is the way to go.
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I have a Rem Mag 10 and it's really only practical as a waterfowl gun.  The 10 tends to pattern way better than a 12g 3 1/2" loads.  You can get far better performace w/ a 10g if you are willing to reload.  The 10g factory stuff is notorioulsy under loaded in respect to speed.... I believe because of the number of old 10 g guns out on the market :dunno:  The faster loads produce more pressure than the old guns can handle.  Funny though, less pressure than the 3 1/2" 12s loads.  But the 12g 3 1/2" guns are all modern guns made to higher pressure tolerances. 

I've shot 3 1/2" 12 in my Mossberg turkey gun.  My buddies and I have patterned 3 differenct 3 1/2" waterful guns.  I tend to feel the 3 1/2 12g is a bit of a gimmick.  One thing you really noticed is the best patterns often come with the lower shot charges... say 2oz vs. 2 1/4oz for lead or 1 1/4oz vs 1 1/2oz in steel.  Also, when you start to look at bigger shot, like for waterfowl 1s, 2s in steel for instance, the patterns in the 12g 3 1/2" seem really inconsistant.  I've noticed similiar things in 3" 20g loads.  My only explanation is that the actual bore can only efficiently choke so much shot.  I tend to think with the new tungsten shots a 3" 12 is about all a guy needs anymore.  One other thing about the 3 1/2" shells in a 12... depending on your gun they will flat punish with recoil.  My Mossberg is absolutely brutal to shoot with 3 1/2" shells. :twocents:

I tend to agree with advice others have given.  The 870 or Nova are going to be hard to beat.  Don't waste your $ on a cheap autoloader.  I will give some props to the higher end autoloaders.  They do tend to operate more reliably and the gas guns really do make a noticeable difference in recoil.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2009, 08:28:36 AM by Intruder »

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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2009, 05:28:57 PM »
Thanks, What does barrel length effect? right now i am pretty set on a benelli super nova in realtree camo. Also, can i shoot slugs from this gun without changing barrels? what about use as a turkey gun, just change the choke?

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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2009, 05:52:41 PM »
Pump.

I personally have a pile of 870s (tho I have 2 Auto-5s and 5 R-11s too), the 870s are what goes hunting.
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Whatta ya mean I can't have one of each?

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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2009, 06:39:52 PM »
can anyone tell me what the different barrel lengths accomplish?

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Re: Pump or Semi?
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2009, 06:43:13 PM »
The longer barrel gives you a longer sighting plane which should help with long shots.  A short barrel is faster to get on target, thus making it good for upland game when you need to get on the bird quickly.
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