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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2018, 12:43:54 PM »
This issue is no public imput in the process!Also I drove out after MARK HOLYOAK from RMEF said I would NEVER get 5474 passed and the Governer to sign the bill which passed 149 to 0 through the house and senate.RMEF said they had no money to help then met us in woodland to try and simmer things down a year later still no action on this issue.

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2018, 01:17:43 PM »
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This issue is no public imput in the process!Also I drove out after MARK HOLYOAK from RMEF said I would NEVER get 5474 passed and the Governer to sign the bill which passed 149 to 0 through the house and senate.RMEF said they had no money to help then met us in woodland to try and simmer things down a year later still no action on this issue.


from the article on WDFW website... 
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Garrison and other WDFW wildlife managers will discuss the department's plans at a public meeting from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday, May 3, at the WDFW regional office at 5525 S. 11th St. in Ridgefield

So, it sounds like there will be public input.

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2018, 01:23:52 PM »
are you guys sure this doesn't have anything to do with aliens, bigfoot and fairies? or is this a different trout lake over  there?

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2018, 01:34:13 PM »
Public input occures before plans take place not after you start killing the states recourse,that belongs to all the tax payers in the state .Not to mention state angencys are supposed to give 10 days notice of any meetings .i also find it interesting I'm on the WDFW email list and have been involved in all of the meetings and processes and didn't hear a thing about this a little suspect.I would be willing to bet that hunters and shed hunters will find lots of dead elk when the snow melts in these areas and this is a way to make it look like WDFW went in and killed them all BS TO ME .

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2018, 01:51:19 PM »
They had a public meeting this last week.in trout lake pertaining to these specific elk

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2018, 02:00:15 PM »
They haven't killed any elk yet, and they are holding public hearings.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/apr2718b/
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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2018, 02:09:20 PM »
WDF&W knows more than they are saying about hoof rot and it's causes. Back some years when the outbreak was getting going in SW Washington they gave out an extreme amount of cow permits in the Coweeman unit. One of the requirements was you had to save and turn into the Department most internal organs and the uterus of all cows taken. They were looking for something, but I never saw any info on what it was or what they found in that study.  My best guess is they were looking for something affecting the immune system of elk in the infected area.  If anyone has a link to how that study turned out, I'd like to see it.
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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2018, 02:32:23 PM »
And won't bring any hard black and white info to any meetings the same old info for 3/4 of the meeting we think it's this we think it's that all BS

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2018, 02:48:29 PM »
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Public input occures before plans take place not after you start killing the states recourse,that belongs to all the tax payers in the state .Not to mention state angencys are supposed to give 10 days notice of any meetings .i also find it interesting I'm on the WDFW email list and have been involved in all of the meetings and processes and didn't hear a thing about this a little suspect.I would be willing to bet that hunters and shed hunters will find lots of dead elk when the snow melts in these areas and this is a way to make it look like WDFW went in and killed them all BS TO ME .

Yeah I bet that would go over good, WDFW holding a meeting without already having an outline of a plan.  I bet the taxpayers wouldn't complain about them being incompetent then.  <sarcasm font>   Besides, the SB 5474, that you keep bringing up, gives permission for them to start killing elk in order for research, which they have been doing per the article. 
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Tests at Colorado State University's Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory and the USDA National Animal Disease Center confirmed both elk had hoof disease, Gardner said.
 


Edit to add.  1 of the elk was hit by a car and one shot by WDFW employees in the Trout Lake area of the two referenced above as being tested.


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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2018, 06:16:42 PM »
The plan was to have WSU do the research they will be going over all of what WDFW has done and were supposed to be do the research along with WSU not on there own .

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2018, 07:21:57 PM »
Treponoma is related to syphillus.  So is Lepto.  Zoonotic to humans.  https://health.uconn.edu/medicine/research/spirochete/  Public health hazard infected animals. 
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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2018, 07:24:05 PM »
The plan was to have WSU do the research they will be going over all of what WDFW has done and were supposed to be do the research along with WSU not on there own .

I don't have much faith in WSU after the Weilgus fiasco.

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2018, 08:31:23 PM »
Just another reason why WDFW should NOT be selling hunting licenses until they figure this out.

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2018, 09:45:10 AM »
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Garrison and other WDFW wildlife managers will discuss the department's plans at a public meeting from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday, May 3, at the WDFW regional office at 5525 S. 11th St. in Ridgefield

Is anybody from the forum planning on attending?

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Re: WDFW KILLING ELK IN TROUT LAKE
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2018, 12:53:39 PM »
Why?  Do they really care what we have to say?  Smoke n mirrors.  They already know what we think the only reason for meetings is to gauge the level of publics knowledge and understanding of their existing knowledge.  Fake news! :chuckle: Bigly!
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