dog hunting

[Ziptie]

Is this a good time to hunt coyote are they still with pups?  I got some free time this weekend 5/26.  I do not want to kill dogs that have pups still. 

Thanks,

[Ballance1]

better hold off if you're worried about pups

[emac]

Why not kill them with pups.

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[Ziptie]

Thanks for the info.

[MooseZ25]

Management Management Management!  Pup grow up to kill.  Not like I love shooting babies but you kill a pup coyote that one less out there.   

[tlbradford]

Most pups will be between 6 and 10 weeks right now.  I don't care if you kill pups or adults, but letting pups starve or die of dehydration is pretty cruel.  So take them all out humanely.   

[Thehowler]

As humanely as they kill calves and fawns.

[gaddy]

One thing I never understand is everyone hating on Coyotes, or other predators, saying to kill as many as you can, look at the damage they do, the population is out of control etc... and yet worrying about the pups ? If this was a wolf discussion would you worry about the pups ? Each female spawns how many pups ? How many of them will be female's spawning how many pups ?

[AWS]

killing calves and fawns is part of the cycle of life, coyotes do no more harm than we do.  The calve and fawns are headed to the butcher to feel us someday.  Coyotes are here to provide us with warm pelts.  If you kill coyotes in the winter they can provide you with an income and then they won't have those dastardly pups in the spring.  killing coyotes in the summer is just a waste.  Personally I think there should be a fall/winter season on public lands for coyotes.

[pashok23]

killing calves and fawns is part of the cycle of life, coyotes do no more harm than we do.  The calve and fawns are headed to the butcher to feel us someday.  Coyotes are here to provide us with warm pelts.  If you kill coyotes in the winter they can provide you with an income and then they won't have those dastardly pups in the spring.  killing coyotes in the summer is just a waste.  Personally I think there should be a fall/winter season on public lands for coyotes.

Agree here,i start hunting coyotes in late October thru February.

[tlbradford]

As humanely as they kill calves and fawns.

You are tougher than I am.  I have seen pups die in this manner and it is difficult to watch.  Do you watch an adult coyote run around with its intestines strewn out 12 feet behind them, or do you put a second bullet into them?  That's all I am saying.

[Bofire]

Do what you will, I do not hunt right now but I really don't know why. People get on a soap box about hunting "pups" at 6-9 weeks but it is OK at 12-14 weeks? What is the age? You have to live with yourself, do what you will.
Carl

[gaddy]

I just picked up a copy of Sportsman's News and found this article by Gary Lewis. I'll quote the parts that relate to this topic ( i think )
" Who hunts Coyotes in the summer? The serious coyote hunters, the ones who understand how important it is to keep predator numbers in balance, protecting the young ungulates, trying to get a foothold in life.
Out here in the west, when we take a hungry coyote out of the pack, we are helping mule deer. Each one that assumes room temperature makes it more possible for deer and antelope fawns to grow up.
But we are creatures of habit and don't start thinking about coyote hunting until coyote pelts thicken up with the coming of winter. That should change.
To really help mule deer and pronghorns, we should hunt coyotes from February and into June and July.
Males and females begin to pair up in February and are well into the breeding season in March. They set up the pair bond, establish a den site and start to defend it.
Take out a male or a female in the month of march and the surviving partner will not be able to find a new mate before denning season starts. Keep hunting. In April, It is important to try to break up pairs because it difficult for the remaining coyote to raise a litter of pups.
In May and June, coyotes are raising pups and at this time, they prey heavily on deer and antelope herds and even on elk calves hidden in grass. Near ranches and farms, coyotes watch for opportunities to pounce on lambs or calves. Often the coyote will attack a calf as it's mother is giving birth.
Take a coyote in May and June and the number of coyotes that are pestering the herds is reduced at the time when baby fawns, kids and calves are at their most vulnerable."
This makes sense to me.

I have to admit that I have not hunted yotes since the early eighty's and then it was just for fun. And we were never any good at it. I am just curious as to why people are so selective on coyotes.

[teanawayslayer]

Why not kill them with pups.

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they grow up to be fawn killers. Might as well shoot the  pups or let Mother Nature take care of them after mom isn’t around!

[W_Ellison2011]

Why not kill them with pups.

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they grow up to be fawn killers. Might as well shoot the  pups or let Mother Nature take care of them after mom isn’t around!

100% agree!  There is ALWAYS a firearm either on me or in my vehicle when I'm scouting or hunting. If I see a coyote then it becomes a coyote hunt! I don't care what time of year it is or if they have pups or not. If killing 1 saves fawns and elk calves then it gets killed. We have too many issues as it is with predators. Bears and Cougars are at a high and that hurts the elk and deer numbers enough already!

[Thehowler]

Why not kill them with pups.

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they grow up to be fawn killers. Might as well shoot the  pups or let Mother Nature take care of them after mom isn’t around!

100% agree!  There is ALWAYS a firearm either on me or in my vehicle when I'm scouting or hunting. If I see a coyote then it becomes a coyote hunt! I don't care what time of year it is or if they have pups or not. If killing 1 saves fawns and elk calves then it gets killed. We have too many issues as it is with predators. Bears and Cougars are at a high and that hurts the elk and deer numbers enough already!

Same here, always have the rifle with me to pop Yotes. Game numbers need to recover some how. Dam stinky Yotes.

[emac]

Why not kill them with pups.

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they grow up to be fawn killers. Might as well shoot the  pups or let Mother Nature take care of them after mom isn’t around!

100% agree!  There is ALWAYS a firearm either on me or in my vehicle when I'm scouting or hunting. If I see a coyote then it becomes a coyote hunt! I don't care what time of year it is or if they have pups or not. If killing 1 saves fawns and elk calves then it gets killed. We have too many issues as it is with predators. Bears and Cougars are at a high and that hurts the elk and deer numbers enough already!

Same here, always have the rifle with me to pop Yotes. Game numbers need to recover some how. Dam stinky Yotes.

Exactly my point. Take out a female this time of year and you might actually get 5 or 6 with one shot. Seems like a win win for fawns and many other animals

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[AWS]

Take out the same female in January and you accomplish the same thing sans the starving pups, plus you could make gas money for the trip.

[W_Ellison2011]

Take out the same female in January and you accomplish the same thing sans the starving pups, plus you could make gas money for the trip.

Don't always find them in January. Sometimes you run into them during the spring/summer while out scouting. Some of us don't care about the pelts but do care about our herds of deer and elk. For me this year I also want to try eating coyote. Saw several videos of a guy preparing various parts of a coyote and feeding it to people. People said it tasted like venison. If pups starve it sucks but that means those pups don't grow up to eat a lot more fawns and elk calves.

[JJB11B]

I actively pursue coyotes in the October-March times in Eastern Wa. I will take opportunity dogs year round. I do save the good hides

[LongBomb]

Nobody that i know sweats it when they kill a mouse or rat in there house/ shop.. I'm sure they got a bunch of babies depending on them. A pest is a pest.

[tlbradford]

Coyotes have a lot to offer in a well balanced ecosystem.  I would not classify them as pest.  I think they get a lot more blame than they actually deserve.  When you look at what feral cats, skunks, raccoons, bears, cougars, etc do to populations of game birds, small game, and ungulates.  It is usually much more than the impact coyotes have.  They serve an important purpose in keeping a lot of vermin in check. 

I used to share many of the opinions that you guys have, but research, education, and observing the impact my hunting did around the ranches I hunted year round, changed my mind.  The benefit to year round hunting in most instances, is observed around ranching operations.  That is where you see the populations being backfilled by surrounding areas and the numbers can be kept in check.  Individual coyotes that cause the most trouble can be identified and killed.  And they develop a healthy respect for animals and humans.