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Offline cb1989

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Snowberries?
« on: September 18, 2018, 10:18:35 AM »
I'm new here, spending this season walking and learning. Concentrating on learning about bears because it's the something we couldn't hunt on a regular basis back in Michigan, and seems like Washington has some great opportunities for it.

My starting point is learning about food sources. Ive covered a lot of ground this summer and fall so far, and have been pleased with the amount of sign I've found. Have yet to actually see a bear, but haven't been doing any actual hunting. One thing I'm curious about that doesn't seem like it's been covered here much is snowberry. There's a particular area on the east side I've found that isn't particularly high - around 3000ft. I don't think its high enough for blueberries or hucks, and not low enough for blackberries. One thing that does seem to grow is snowberry. I've found some fresh crap with a lot of the berries in it, but they don't seem to be very well digested, almost the entire berry is visible rather than just the seeds. When I've picked some of them (from the plant, not out of the crap) and smushed them up, they don't seem to be a very high quality berry. So my question is - are these a low-quality bear food? Obviously they are eating them, but is it more because that's the only thing around, or will bears focus on them at certain times?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 10:41:45 AM »
I've never seen bears working them as a primary food source.  Much better off finding huckleberries, blueberries, blackberries, wild cherries, apples, etc.
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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 10:43:48 AM »
Welcome!  I'm new to bear hunting as well (this is my second season) so I'm looking forward to whatever advice comes here; I've wondered the same things about snowberries. 

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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »
I've heard they are very toxic.  The bear probably got the runs.  If it digested the inner part of the berry the poison starts to get out.

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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 10:46:21 AM »
I believe it's a mild toxin but that it doesn't affect most species.  I know grouse and chipmunks eat them.
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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 05:02:50 PM »
I think you're right about the quality of food. Heard that bears don't usually digest the stuff that is unripe or hasn't reached to the point where it has enough nutrients for him.
Here are some pics I took a few days ago showing the undigested stuff in the scat.

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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 08:03:10 PM »
In my experience and from what I've read, bear's rarely digest all of whatever they're eating before dumping it.  I've seen plenty of scat with mostly-intact huckleberries in it.  I'm wouldn't suspect undigested berries imply that the berries aren't nutritious  :dunno:
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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 09:34:33 PM »
Because they eat so much a lot of it actually never gets digested. The system can't keep up. . I could be incorrect, and am open to be corrected. I read ounce, that it could be as much as 30% of intake at this time of year may not have a chance to get broke down.

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Re: Snowberries?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2018, 10:43:55 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Follow up question for berry experts - are these unripe bilberries? Found at about 6.5k last weekend in a meadow in an older burn area. Berries were all pretty hard still, didn't really seem much like blueberries or huckleberries that I know bilberries are related to, but from what I can find online the plant itself looks a lot like dwarf or cascade bilberry.


 


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